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  • 64 kiwi boni
    do you like the colour wrongway ?
    i am sooo thinking a purple for the 68 !! justa cause its old school hippy like ! but with polished alloy not black like modern stuff

    By 64 kiwi boni ·

  • Mbird68
    Best thing you can do on these OLD cars is use a relay for things like headlights. The power will flow directly from the battery to the headlights and not through the whole system and headlight switch. You can use the existing feed wire from the headlight switch to trigger the relay.

    By Mbird68 ·

  • 64 kiwi boni
    Rick that 8 gauge wire will do 40amps nicely over that distance , but I am not sure what your loading it with , your headlights will pull 22 amps when all 4 are running , which is really close to your fuses rating , what else feeds off that wire ?
    I guess at the end of the day , your fuse is there to protect the wire , so you could safely go to a 40 amp fuse.
    Amperage (Amps)
    Up to 1.5m (5 ft)
    1.5m to 3m (10 ft)
    3m to 4.5m (15 ft)
    4.5m to 6m (20 ft)
    5 A
    18 AWG
    18 AWG
    18 AWG
    16 AWG
    10 A
    18 AWG
    16 AWG
    14 AWG
    12 AWG
    15 A
    16 AWG
    14 AWG
    12 AWG
    12 AWG
    20 A
    14 AWG
    12 AWG
    10 AWG
    10 AWG
    30 A
    12 AWG
    10 AWG
    8 AWG
    8 AWG
    40 A
    10 AWG
    8 AWG
    6 AWG
    6 AWG
    50 A
    8 AWG
    6 AWG
    4 AWG
    4 AWG
    100 A
    4 AWG
    2 AWG
    1/0 AWG




    By 64 kiwi boni ·

  • Frosty
    For the fireworks, of course
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    By Frosty ·

  • B52bombardier1
    Hello Chris,
       You may recall that the 400 cubic inch engine was missing when I got this car and much of the under-hood wiring had been tampered with or was otherwise faulty.  In the pursuit of this resto-mod, I had to adapt things a bit along the way.   
     I went with an eight-gauge wire to replace the burned-up length of fusible link wire in this car and protected the new wire with a fuse very near the battery where the new eight-gauge wire sources its power. I could never determine why the fusible link wire burned up.  Would a six-gauge wire have been a better choice? IDK. This LS engine car is running a 130-amp capable alternator and I’m nowhere near using that much amperage.
    This new, 25-amp fuse protected, eight-gauge wire connected to the car under-hood harness at circuits “BZ” and “DW” on the attached picture.   BZ and DW are the main power input wires to car’s engine side of the fuse block and this feeds everything on the half of the fuse block directly above the driver’s feet.
    There is also a dedicated heavy gauge orange wire from the battery (I can only presume originally from the battery - maybe the alternator??) to the fuse block for the convertible top hydraulic pump motor that is not mentioned in the attached picture here. This was one of several wiring mysteries that I encountered with putting this car back into service.  As far as I could tell, most of the length of that wire from the battery to the firewall had never had fuse protection but it is now protected by a 25-amp slow blow fuse close to the battery. The fuse panel also has a dedicated 40-amp self-resetting circuit breaker for this pump, power windows, power seats and power door locks at the top left corner of fuse panel. A 25-amp slow blow fuse only for the pump motor is plenty sufficient because this car does not have power seats or power windows, etc.
    The new radiator fan, AC condenser fan, transmission cooler fan and the new heating and AC system from Old Air Products all get their power from new relay controlled and separately fuse protected circuits under the hood – sourced from the battery. Control / ignition key on power for these relays does come from the original car fuse block sources. 
    The original Pontiac / Harrison heat and air conditioning system was completely removed and no longer consumes power from the car’s fuse block. This means there is now a lot of extra amperage available on the car’s 30-amp “Heater A/C” fuse on the top of the right column of fuses and I have no idea what I will do with that capability. Probably nothing but all 30 amps are available there because this car has none of the letter’s A through J factory accessories that consumed power on that circuit – the factory never installed those.
    The power for the headlights also arrives on this eight-gauge wire input to the fuse block.  I’ve hand touched all of the under-hood wires while the car was running its accessories to see if any wire was warm or hot. All wires were a normal temperature here.
      Nevertheless, it’s always a fine line between clever and stupid.  And I crossed that line by using a 25-amp fuse where a somewhat larger fuse would have been a better choice.  Nothing burned up except that 25-amp fuse which is a good thing.
    And hey, I learned how to turn into my drive way in total darkness through the use of steering wheel Braille. And lucky guesswork.
    Rick

    By B52bombardier1 ·

  • 64 kiwi boni
    why !!!!!!

    By 64 kiwi boni ·

  • Frosty
    Won’t you please help?
    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19WqQXZG1J/?mibextid=wwXIfr

    By Frosty ·

  • 64 kiwi boni
    thanks frosty, it give me a idea for the stroker motor !!!

    By 64 kiwi boni ·

  • Frosty
    Kiwi - Edelbrock makes a couple of direct port injection intake manifolds for Pontiacs.


    By Frosty ·

  • JUSTA6
    1 Pontiac Plaza.......The White house.
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    By JUSTA6 ·

  • Mbird68
    1969 400 block, factory crank, #16 D port heads with Incolnel valves, 24cc dished ross pistons, callies rods, custom solid flat tappet.

    By Mbird68 ·

  • Ringo64
    So many cones and spikes!

    By Ringo64 ·

  • 64 kiwi boni
  • 64 kiwi boni
    I am going to spilt everything on the 63 and take all the load off the ignition switch and light switch with 30 amp relays and 30 amp fuses on each, but what i dont know is what gauge wire to use, its all fine using higher amp fuses but it has to be the right gauge wire that your protecting !!!
    i always remeber when i was a kid watching my dad pulling the fuse on the wall in the garage and puting in a fuse with a nail in it when he would want to weld !!!
    i am sure he really never though about how hot the wires in the wall of the garage got hot while he was welding back then !!!!

    By 64 kiwi boni ·

  • 64 kiwi boni
    what circut was that on Rick ???
    dont you have it all split down ? and on 30 amp to each section for those high drain ones like head lights hood horn heater fans(they are 60)

    By 64 kiwi boni ·

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