1964 bonneville rebuild

[JUSTA6]

[Andy H]

13 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Ever feel you have been ripped off ? 

I live in a town that has justA one exhaust shop that can flare 2 1/2 inch  tube .

i got the guy to flare 2 x 6 inch long pieces of mild steel tube to suit the long branch headers .... $96 bucks ! i think i just contributed to his retirement fund!! 

I got ripped 😡😡😡😡

but I have no choice short of driving a hour to the next exhaust shop... 

So for the next few hours I will fume and try not to think about it !!! 

Hope that came with a flange also😟

[64 kiwi boni]

1 hour ago, Andy H said:

Hope that came with a flange also😟

haha, no Andy! the flanges came with the headers 

[64 kiwi boni]

My latest Milwaukee tool

the m18 compressor 👍👍👍

I certainly recommended them 

[64 kiwi boni]

Finally got to fit the carter ... have lots to tell 

but here’s a starter . I added a dual return spring for more safety ..

will load more tomorrow 

it’s beer-o-o’clock 👍👍👍👍👍

[Fitzy]

I like your fuel inlet set up. Any specs on the fitting that screws into the carb? Mine is (was) a crappy looking piece of 3/8 rubber hose.

Also, as I was pulling bits off my engine I think I discovered my vacuum leak - the PCV valve was only just sitting in it's rock hard cracked & brittle grommet that plugs into the inlet manifold.

[64 kiwi boni]

11 hours ago, Fitzy said:

I like your fuel inlet set up. Any specs on the fitting that screws into the carb? Mine is (was) a crappy looking piece of 3/8 rubber hose.

Also, as I was pulling bits off my engine I think I discovered my vacuum leak - the PCV valve was only just sitting in it's rock hard cracked & brittle grommet that plugs into the inlet manifold.

Yes mate it’s a aeromotive brand Teflon fuel hose with a-n fittings and the one into the carter is the same as a holly fitting 

if your motor is like mine, you will be replacing every rubber part! Mine where all buggered 

[64 kiwi boni]

So I hooked the carter up and cranked the motor and no go... pulled the top off and found the inlet needles where not opening 

then I checked the rebuild kit that I got from edelbrock and what was in the rock auto kit , 

here is the trap for young players ! The stock carter inlet needles don’t have a clip that pulls them open , but the new needles do ! 

I had used what edelbrock had supplied and no clips in that kit !!

so once I install the clips the float arm would pull the needle down off its seat !

watch for that little detail ... see pic 

I also noted I was only getting a squirt of gas from the right side of the accelerator jet, so I pulled that off and found I had not cleaned it properly 

With that all sorted she fired straight up and a quick tune of the idle jets and she is running better than ever 👍👍👍👍

onto the days mission !!

drove her into the hoist and out with the logs and in with the new super sexy long branch headers 

Edited August 7, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

A very nice clean fit too I might say 

Fitzy some pics of the oil filter housing relocation 

it moves the existing housing out, back and angles the filter 

[JUSTA6]

1 hour ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

So I hooked the carter up and cranked the motor and no go... pulled the top off and found the inlet needles where not opening 

then I checked the rebuild kit that I got from edelbrock and what was in the rock auto kit , 

here is the trap for young players ! The stock carter inlet needles don’t have a clip that pulls them open , but the new needles do ! 

I had used what edelbrock had supplied and no clips in that kit !!

so once I install the clips the float arm would pull the needle down off its seat !

watch for that little detail ... see pic 

I also noted I was only getting a squirt of gas from the right side of the accelerator jet, so I pulled that off and found I had not cleaned it properly 

With that all sorted she fired straight up and a quick tune of the idle jets and she is running better than ever 👍👍👍👍

onto the days mission !!

drove her into the hoist and out with the logs and in with the new super sexy long branch headers 

AWESOME....You have to be sooo anxious with all the great work done and how far you have come with this project. 😎

[Andy H]

2 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

A very nice clean fit too I might say 

Fitzy some pics of the oil filter housing relocation 

it moves the existing housing out, back and angles the filter 

Very nice, can you imagine putting regular headers in, Pontiac with their exhaust port's oriented the way they are don't make it easy, like your oil filter relocation.

[Fitzy]

Nice work, Kiwi. I've never seen a needle valve be 'pulled' down before - only gravity assisted ones. Your headers look sweet. Man, that's a tight fit where they squeeze between the block and steering box.

I have a question: is that some sort of valve sitting in the end of one of your headers-see pics.

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by Fitzy
Double up on photo

[64 kiwi boni]

30 minutes ago, Fitzy said:

Nice work, Kiwi. I've never seen a needle valve be 'pulled' down before - only gravity assisted ones

yip! watch for that when you rebuild your afb Fitzy! ,,,,, without that little spring the bloody needle valve sticks in its seat and the fuel pressure doesnt push it open!

sorry mate its optical elusion ! there is no chock or valve like the dinosaur log manifolds

and i can tell you the 389 sounds way happier with the new headers too!! 

[64 kiwi boni]

what your looking at is the cast splitter between the runners, its not a valve or chock

10 hours ago, Andy H said:

Very nice, can you imagine putting regular headers in, Pontiac with their exhaust port's oriented the way they are don't make it easy, like your oil filter relocation.

yeah Andy with a 64 the steering box is right by the 2 middle exhaust ports ! so no way are any aftermarket tube headers ever going to fit.. but these cast iron repos work justA fine  , your lemans will have the steering box out the front, so no issues with headers

[64 kiwi boni]

I spent all of today building the first section of exhaust 

got it all tacked together and went to tig weld it up and my auto dark head shield shit it’s self , went and borrowed my mates one and then ran out of argon shield  gas !!! And it’s Sunday !! Nothings open 😡

basically time to knock off and go eat some nice food with friends and have a beer 🍻🍻

Oh ment to say 

I am doing a x pipe system ... super tight to make it work but I think they work better than justA doing a h pipe 

what you see here is the front section from the long branch headers and both sides have to step outwards to miss the trans shift linkage on the drivers side and the trans filler tube on the passengers side then wrap tight to the back of the trans pan ... x pipe then a sharp up and over the transmission support .

 and thats where i have made my firs flange joint 

Edited August 8, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

12 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

AWESOME....You have to be sooo anxious with all the great work done and how far you have come with this project. 😎

justA... i am sooo wanting to get her on the road, but time is my big issue! i am lucky if i get 2 whole weekend days a month to get shit done! 

 and justA, i am still thinking about my mate who past last week and i went to his funeral on friday... its haunting me about living life before we drop dead !! 

Edited August 8, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[JUSTA6]

4 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

justA... i am sooo wanting to get her on the road, but time is my big issue! i am lucky if i get 2 whole weekend days a month to get shit done! 

 and justA, i am still thinking about my mate who past last week and i went to his funeral on friday... its haunting me about living life before we drop dead !! 

1 day at a time my friend.  At the end of the day, if you enjoyed yourself, if your proud of what you've accomplished, it's been a great day.  Like yesterday,  wife N I stopped and had a few drinks with friends and everyone kept sayin I should dance like nobody's watchin.   Yea right....my court date is in 2 weeks.😁

[Andy H]

5 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

what your looking at is the cast splitter between the runners, its not a valve or chock

yeah Andy with a 64 the steering box is right by the 2 middle exhaust ports ! so no way are any aftermarket tube headers ever going to fit.. but these cast iron repos work justA fine  , your lemans will have the steering box out the front, so no issues with headers

Still pretty tight with header's even on my Lemans, also my stock manifolds don't look quite as restricted as yours.

Probably going to keep my manifolds.

[64 kiwi boni]

On 8/9/2021 at 3:00 AM, JUSTA6 said:

Like yesterday,  wife N I stopped and had a few drinks with friends and everyone kept sayin I should dance like nobody's watchin.   Yea right....my court date is in 2 weeks.😁

so you got done for dancing justA????? boy!   it mustA been bad   !!!hahahaha

Edited August 10, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

On 8/3/2021 at 4:33 PM, 64 kiwi boni said:

Ever feel you have been ripped off ? 

I live in a town that has justA one exhaust shop that can flare 2 1/2 inch  tube .

i got the guy to flare 2 x 6 inch long pieces of mild steel tube to suit the long branch headers .... $96 bucks ! i think i just contributed to his retirement fund!! 

I got ripped 😡😡😡😡

but I have no choice short of driving a hour to the next exhaust shop... 

So for the next few hours I will fume and try not to think about it !!! 

i have had a really nasty experience today.. you all know how i posted about my disappointment with the cost of having 2 pieces of 2 1/2 inch steel tube flared at a local exhaust shop.... pitstop taupo to be exact to be very clear so they know!!

after i paid and walked away with the 2 x flared bits of tube i got a txt message asking how i rate the service i had got from the PITSTOP exhaust shop..........well. you know what i did i gave them a 1 star, did not post a comment and left it at that.

guess what ! 

 the owner of the local branch rang me about an hour ago. it was not a pleasant conversation, he started off by swearing at me as to why the F __Ck did i give his business a  one star rating... that got the hairs up on the back of my neck and i went into nice me mode... 

explaining how i had got this generic txt asking for me to rate the service... and to be honest... i was pist off $97 buck nz dollars to flare 2 pieces of tube was a rip off in my thoughts.... he didn't like that one bit... i explained    

he then banged on about his experience and how MY type piss him off and he is over it, i must take the parts back and he will give me my money back!!!! hahahahha ( am really wondering what MY TYPE is !! )

too late ! the parts are fitted( but i did not tell him that).!

what i did say was.... peter. you should have told me you where going to spend 0.6 hours flaring 2 bits of tube and charge me at a rate of $118 per hour BEFORE you did the job and i could have said yes thats fine. or no i will go elsewhere !

he did not take kindly to my suggestion and clearly was wound up before he even called me...  

he then hang up on me and i was left hanging with clearly a guy who felt he needed to take his frustration out on me.    

Now all i feel is...well i will leave it to all you who read this and your imagination !!

[Frosty]

6 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

i have had a really nasty experience today.. you all know how i posted about my disappointment with the cost of having 2 pieces of 2 1/2 inch steel tube flared at a local exhaust shop.... pitstop taupo to be exact to be very clear so they know!!

after i paid and walked away with the 2 x flared bits of tube i got a txt message asking how i rate the service i had got from the PITSTOP exhaust shop..........well. you know what i did i gave them a 1 star, did not post a comment and left it at that.

guess what ! 

 the owner of the local branch rang me about an hour ago. it was not a pleasant conversation, he started off by swearing at me as to why the F __Ck did i give his business a  one star rating... that got the hairs up on the back of my neck and i went into nice me mode... 

explaining how i had got this generic txt asking for me to rate the service... and to be honest... i was pist off $97 buck nz dollars to flare 2 pieces of tube was a rip off in my thoughts.... he didn't like that one bit... i explained    

he then banged on about his experience and how MY type piss him off and he is over it, i must take the parts back and he will give me my money back!!!! hahahahha ( am really wondering what MY TYPE is !! )

too late ! the parts are fitted( but i did not tell him that).!

what i did say was.... peter. you should have told me you where going to spend 0.6 hours flaring 2 bits of tube and charge me at a rate of $118 per hour BEFORE you did the job and i could have said yes thats fine. or no i will go elsewhere !

he did not take kindly to my suggestion and clearly was wound up before he even called me...  

he then hang up on me and i was left hanging with clearly a guy who felt he needed to take his frustration out on me.    

Now all i feel is...well i will leave it to all you who read this and your imagination !!

This sounds like what I call an F-U very much, a nasty letter to follow type of conversation.

You berate customers who are critical of your work? You treat them like crap and with disrespect? Obviously he doesn't realize that dissatisfied customers tell 15-25 people about your horrible service vs. the satisficed customers who will tell 3-5 people. 

I guess he doesn't like intelligent customers who try to think what the value of something is worth rather than the sheep customers who will pay whatever ridiculous rate he wants without question. I think that is what he is talking about as YOUR TYPE.

Clearly you have every reason to post an even further negative review on this guy online IMHO. Up to you. You have said your piece to the owner. Do you want to share that negative experience with others as a warning or are you willing to let it go?

Edited August 11, 2021 by Frosty

[Andy H]

8 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

i have had a really nasty experience today.. you all know how i posted about my disappointment with the cost of having 2 pieces of 2 1/2 inch steel tube flared at a local exhaust shop.... pitstop taupo to be exact to be very clear so they know!!

after i paid and walked away with the 2 x flared bits of tube i got a txt message asking how i rate the service i had got from the PITSTOP exhaust shop..........well. you know what i did i gave them a 1 star, did not post a comment and left it at that.

guess what ! 

 the owner of the local branch rang me about an hour ago. it was not a pleasant conversation, he started off by swearing at me as to why the F __Ck did i give his business a  one star rating... that got the hairs up on the back of my neck and i went into nice me mode... 

explaining how i had got this generic txt asking for me to rate the service... and to be honest... i was pist off $97 buck nz dollars to flare 2 pieces of tube was a rip off in my thoughts.... he didn't like that one bit... i explained    

he then banged on about his experience and how MY type piss him off and he is over it, i must take the parts back and he will give me my money back!!!! hahahahha ( am really wondering what MY TYPE is !! )

too late ! the parts are fitted( but i did not tell him that).!

what i did say was.... peter. you should have told me you where going to spend 0.6 hours flaring 2 bits of tube and charge me at a rate of $118 per hour BEFORE you did the job and i could have said yes thats fine. or no i will go elsewhere !

he did not take kindly to my suggestion and clearly was wound up before he even called me...  

he then hang up on me and i was left hanging with clearly a guy who felt he needed to take his frustration out on me.    

Now all i feel is...well i will leave it to all you who read this and your imagination !!

Why would someone call with that attitude and think that they would make the situation any better? After a call like that is there anyway to give them a negative one star? Usually small business best advertising is word of mouth he totally blew that.

[JUSTA6]

8 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

i have had a really nasty experience today.. you all know how i posted about my disappointment with the cost of having 2 pieces of 2 1/2 inch steel tube flared at a local exhaust shop.... pitstop taupo to be exact to be very clear so they know!!

after i paid and walked away with the 2 x flared bits of tube i got a txt message asking how i rate the service i had got from the PITSTOP exhaust shop..........well. you know what i did i gave them a 1 star, did not post a comment and left it at that.

guess what ! 

 the owner of the local branch rang me about an hour ago. it was not a pleasant conversation, he started off by swearing at me as to why the F __Ck did i give his business a  one star rating... that got the hairs up on the back of my neck and i went into nice me mode... 

explaining how i had got this generic txt asking for me to rate the service... and to be honest... i was pist off $97 buck nz dollars to flare 2 pieces of tube was a rip off in my thoughts.... he didn't like that one bit... i explained    

he then banged on about his experience and how MY type piss him off and he is over it, i must take the parts back and he will give me my money back!!!! hahahahha ( am really wondering what MY TYPE is !! )

too late ! the parts are fitted( but i did not tell him that).!

what i did say was.... peter. you should have told me you where going to spend 0.6 hours flaring 2 bits of tube and charge me at a rate of $118 per hour BEFORE you did the job and i could have said yes thats fine. or no i will go elsewhere !

he did not take kindly to my suggestion and clearly was wound up before he even called me...  

he then hang up on me and i was left hanging with clearly a guy who felt he needed to take his frustration out on me.    

Now all i feel is...well i will leave it to all you who read this and your imagination !!

As you explained, he is the only bender in town and seems you posted a pic of this favorite speed shop in one of your post.  Good thing you didn't post a comment with your rating.  Here, people have been hit with lawsuits over posting this rating/comment crap.  Your a longtime customer or he wouldn't have your phone number.  Hope he is not the only parts store around.   I'd be right in his face.....Yo Pete, do you have any idea how many cars I own/maintain.  How much friggin $$$ I spend here in the course of the year???? And to be feeling ripped off from a shop I've trusted for years.  Why did you send the text/rating to me to begin with?,  if your worried about customers you should be worried about keeping the BIGGEST/BEST customers you have. NOT calling and pissin me off even further. In a day and age that online ordering is putting shops like yours out of business you better turn on the lights before it's too late.

[64 kiwi boni]

thanks Guys, i have done something about this guy! 

it justA did not sit well with me that he could ring me up and verbally abuse me for rating his service.

i have emailed pitstop new zealand and asked for management to make contact regarding one of their franchises.

lets see what comes out of the wood work today!  

[Wrongway]

Damn bro, sorry you had to deal with that crap. Could always forward the shops mail to say Alaska.  Justa thought