6 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

I scored a tri carb manifold today !!! 
but I am not sure what year it is ….

here’s the casting number and the only other stamping !!!!

frostttttyyyyy help 😜

 

 

 

this will be perfect for the 64, as it has the early water jacket shape, later model stuff has a round water jacket ... but frosty can you enlighten me ? 

Part of the manifold deal was this pair of Edelbrocks … 

You, good sir, have a 1959 tri-power intake manifold for the 389.

You can run 3 2-barrel carbs or EFI. Butler has an EFI kit. Grant use to have a tri-EFI system for the Pontiac engine before they went out of business but that was a whole new manifold too (you can still find these on eBay and Marketplace). Not sure if the Butler solution is a new manifold or not, I haven't researched it.

K 19 8 is the casting date of November 19, 1958.

1959 was the year that Pontiac introduced the 389 V8 (a.k.a. the Trophy V8). Don't forget that this engine departed from the previous year's 370's reverse cooling architecture (coolant to the heads first). Pontiac continued to refine the 389 and 421 SD/HO engines for the next six years, until the 400 came out.

Does that answer your question Kiwi?

Edited April 9, 20251 yr by Frosty

12 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Well...those 6 little holes will fit some nice flowers in them - garden ornament.

hmmm, the boss will love that !!!

forget carbs !!! what about efi ? 

7 hours ago, Frosty said:

You, good sir, have a 1959 tri-power intake manifold for the 389.

You can run 3 2-barrel carbs or EFI. Butler has an EFI kit. Grant use to have a tri-EFI system for the Pontiac engine before they went out of business but that was a whole new manifold too (you can still find these on eBay and Marketplace). Not sure if the Butler solution is a new manifold or not, I haven't researched it.

K 19 8 is the casting date of November 19, 1958.

1959 was the year that Pontiac introduced the 389 V8 (a.k.a. the Trophy V8). Don't forget that this engine departed from the previous year's 370's reverse cooling architecture (coolant to the heads first). Pontiac continued to refine the 389 and 421 SD/HO engines for the next six years, until the 400 came out.

Does that answer your question Kiwi?

it sure does mate !!! thank you 

Great score Kiwi! Super thrilled for you bro! 

I love the score on the Edelbrock valve covers. I have new valve covers I hope to put on Lucy real soon.

 

7 hours ago, Frosty said:

I love the score on the Edelbrock valve covers. I have new valve covers I hope to put on Lucy real soon.

 

frosty, i only paid $180 nzd for them !!!! and they are brand new still in there box !

40 minutes ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

frosty, i only paid $180 nzd for them !!!! and they are brand new still in there box !

Sweet!!!!

Does any one have Jim hands 

how to build hi performance pontiacs  book ?  
 

It has been recommended to me since I am building a 400 

I understand his son Tom has done a reprint and since then bop performance is selling them 

I think I may own a copy of that one Kiwi. Are you looking for a couple of engine build combinations?

7 hours ago, Frosty said:

I think I may own a copy of that one Kiwi. Are you looking for a couple of engine build combinations?

yes mate, 

i justA hit buy on bop enginereerings web site, the books only $38 

As you know, I used Rocky Rotella's book. Still got it if you'd like to 'borrow' it.

When I say borrow, what I mean is I fly over. If you give me somewhere to sleep whilst I spend a week in Taupo, you can keep it.

I second Rocky's book. Thats also what I have, and you are welcome to borrow it. By borrow I mean fly yourself to Kentucky, we'll drink backwoods bourbon all night and if we can find it in the morning you can have it. .

Wait, you've been reading my thread and Fitzy's thread. You know how his GP is running and how mine is running. I think my book may be broken, you may want to borrow his. But I do still have the bourbon! 

2 hours ago, Fitzy said:

As you know, I used Rocky Rotella's book. Still got it if you'd like to 'borrow' it.

When I say borrow, what I mean is I fly over. If you give me somewhere to sleep whilst I spend a week in Taupo, you can keep it.

Aww

you like taupo don’t ya 😜

2 hours ago, Wrongway said:

second Rocky's book. Thats also what I have, and you are welcome to borrow it. By borrow I mean fly yourself to Kentucky, we'll drink backwoods bourbon all night and if we can find it in the morning you can have

Oh oh 

pick meeeeeee

I recon me n fitzy would sooo enjoy a cuppa tea in Kentucky !!!!!!!

chad !!! I am sooo hanging out to get back to the states !!!!

the boss has us doing London again this year !!!! 
which is all big money !!!

all I want to do is work on the 63 wagon 

and baby step my 400 motor for the 68 !

my fav the 57 will need to wait till I have the bosses 63 done …. 

Chad 

you haven’t met me or fitzy yet 

but we are both down to earth fucked up normal petrol headed that have a life time of bull shit that we have gone through and come out the end of 

justA like you 

and Probly like a whole bunch of ppl that will read this in the future .

i so enjoy that we can share our pontiacs 

on all these corners of the planet !

5 hours ago, Wrongway said:

I second Rocky's book. Thats also what I have, and you are welcome to borrow it. By borrow I mean fly yourself to Kentucky, we'll drink backwoods bourbon all night and if we can find it in the morning you can have it. .

Wait, you've been reading my thread and Fitzy's thread. You know how his GP is running and how mine is running. I think my book may be broken, you may want to borrow his. But I do still have the bourbon! 

 

6 hours ago, Fitzy said:

As you know, I used Rocky Rotella's book. Still got it if you'd like to 'borrow' it.

When I say borrow, what I mean is I fly over. If you give me somewhere to sleep whilst I spend a week in Taupo, you can keep it.

 

3 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Oh oh 

pick meeeeeee

I recon me n fitzy would sooo enjoy a cuppa tea in Kentucky !!!!!!!

chad !!! I am sooo hanging out to get back to the states !!!!

the boss has us doing London again this year !!!! 
which is all big money !!!

all I want to do is work on the 63 wagon 

and baby step my 400 motor for the 68 !

my fav the 57 will need to wait till I have the bosses 63 done …. 

Sounds like we all want to go drinking......

The man, the myth, the Put-In-Bay legend himself - Pat Dailey tells us how it will be.

 

 

JustA little update, the 64 is as good as finished... BUT. i have completly forgotted about the trunk floor!!!

Some where in her life, she has had the trunk floor replaced , probably thanks to the water based paint the factory stuck on it, any who, its been replaced and will NOT pass inspection here in nz unless it is ...

1 fully exposed so that the entry certifier can see it

2 pictures of all the butt welds are shown to the said entry inspector

3 or a document from a authorized repair shop is provided !!! pfffft ! as if i am going to let a shop weld on my car !!!!! NOT

SO

next mission is to drop the gas tank and full buff all the paint off, exposed all welds and document the lot. AND ensure that a entry certifier is happy with them.... so easy aye !!!

wayyyy back in my thread you will see that i had made and fitted the mounting plate forms that where missing that attach the trunk section to the chassis ,,,

Edited March 2Mar 2 by 64 kiwi boni

Damn, that sucks bro!

What? Are we going to Kentucky? Okay then. What do I pack - pig squealin' overalls? Big hat with wonky teeth and big nose mask? Am I getting warm?

You guys can neck bourbon. I'll stick with Coors.

Let me know what flight to get on.

1 hour ago, Fitzy said:

What? Are we going to Kentucky? Okay then. What do I pack - pig squealin' overalls? Big hat with wonky teeth and big nose mask? Am I getting warm?

You guys can neck bourbon. I'll stick with Coors.

Let me know what flight to get on.

Think all we need is our drinking shoes mate 🍻

2 hours ago, Wrongway said:

Damn, that sucks bro!

Nah it doesn’t chad , it’s called shit happens … 😜

11 hours ago, Fitzy said:

What? Are we going to Kentucky? Okay then. What do I pack - pig squealin' overalls? Big hat with wonky teeth and big nose mask? Am I getting warm?

You guys can neck bourbon. I'll stick with Coors.

Let me know what flight to get on.

Justa say'in, I have Bourbon! Good Bourbon that I know you can't get over there.

10 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Nah it doesn’t chad , it’s called shit happens … 😜

It certainly does brother. The stuff you go through over there justa to put your classic cars on the road justa amazes me. It should really make people on our side of the world appreciate what were allowed to do.

i think fitzy and me need to go to wrongways "shop" when we do our usa adventure !!!!

i have a feeling that Chad makes gooood bourbon !

you guys are heading into summer , we are going into winter !!!

day light hours are down and i really need to get the 64 certided so she can be road legal.

But right now, things are realy tight ! there is noooo money for my hobby !

i am arse up head down working !

watch this space ! i will hold off till spring and do what i can with zero dollars on the 63 and 68.

i so love this car ! shes soooo stock and fitzy and i have driven her and she is justA so nice !

Well it's pretty much became a tradition Kiwi, come on by and we'll have a glass or a few and swap stories.

On 3/1/2026 at 1:30 AM, Fitzy said:

What? Are we going to Kentucky? Okay then. What do I pack - pig squealin' overalls? Big hat with wonky teeth and big nose mask? Am I getting warm?

You guys can neck bourbon. I'll stick with Coors.

Let me know what flight to get on.