1964 bonneville rebuild

[Fitzy]

Oh great, now I gotta visit 2 Kiwis in October.

Mind you, another Precious! We must gaze upon it and salivate!

[64 kiwi boni]

pm coming your way  v8 tank 

Edited June 12, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

15 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Oh great, now I gotta visit 2 Kiwis in October.

Mind you, another Precious! We must gaze upon it and salivate!

Fitzy! It’s so you don’t get bored on your   Tour of a Country that is , justA long as one state in oz ! Haha 

While you guys state side have had wide tracker weekend 

I got to paint my long branch headers with the ksb heat proof paint 

Zinc coat first and then I got to try out my brand new touch up gun 

with the satin black 

Edited June 13, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

Then I had enough time to pull the carter  carb and start the rebuild  

 

JustA small rebuild instruction manual !!!! NOT 

Edited June 13, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

Here is a little catch for anyone rebuilding their carter carb, the edelbrock kit has a plunger seal that works for latter model units not a 1964 unit, my seal  is leather and a different shape , so the new seal doesn’t work 

I have had to order a whole accelerator plunger assembly 

Edited June 14, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[Fitzy]

Kiwi - have a look at this:

Legend has it that some Carters had a restrictor installed at the behest of Pontiac to ensure that their tri power setup gave more horsepower at high revs. The first pic is of your carb.

I also have a similar Carter and already have the rebuild kit - all I need is for the car to come back!

[64 kiwi boni]

bugger me your right mate !!! i was wondering what that plate did !!! 

where did you find this info ????? 

the interesting part was i noted that there was not a replacement gasket in the edelbrock kit for it !!

fitzy, you will find you have the same leather plunger seal too mate and will need to get yourself a Edelbrock #1470 plunger complete 

[64 kiwi boni]

so you got me wondering, so mr google says it a hot idle compensator, that when the engine gets hot allows extra air into the motor and helps to cool the carb down again, and then shuts ...

from what i have read you need it for ac cars and hotter climates!!

[Fitzy]

It could be an urban myth. I forget how I found it - I've spent a lot of time at work lately, and I spend a lot of THAT time sitting still in a coach and idling, so Google got a workout.

I'll check my kit when I get home. If I have one of those doovers in my carb, I'll probably remove it. That way, when it runs like a bucket of crap, I can then put it back in.

[Fitzy]

I'd love to hear any thoughts that the guys might have on this topic.  Is it a myth, or is it really a restrictor, or is it actually what it's supposed to do?

[Frosty]

On 6/12/2021 at 3:08 PM, Fitzy said:

Oh great, now I gotta visit 2 Kiwis in October.

Mind you, another Precious! We must gaze upon it and salivate!

Can someone get Fitzy a moist towelette please? 

[JUSTA6]

Notta good 1st impression Fitzy.  Wrangle em both to one location and meet em there.   Thinkin BEER would make great bait....

[Fitzy]

Yeah JustA, baiting Kiwis with beer is like shootin' fish in a barrel. In fact, Aussies are quite fond of a brewskie here and there. I'll bet when Kiwis1 & 2 and myself rock up to Michigan, baiting you guys with the promise of beers will work a treat, too.

It was Benjamin Franklin who apparently quoted that "beer is proof that God loves us." For someone who liked to bait lightning with a kite, the man sounded reasonably sane.

[64 kiwi boni]

ok further to the carb rebuild DONT buy the edelbrock kit if your rebuilding a carter afb!!! 

 why...

there is a number of parts that are missing. they are....

 accelerator plunger ! the edelbrock kit only has a seal compatable with the later model plunger assembly, and wont fit the brass carter plunger assembly.

 the gaskets for the secondary air horns are not correct for the carter.

there is no replacement seal for the coke assembly to the fuel bowl assembly 

the base gasket is a open 4 barrel gasket when the carter needs a 4 hole gasket...

 i found all this out by looking at the kit on rockauto... i had ordered a accelerator plunger from out new local speed shop, he came back to me and said there was none in the country and do i want him to order one from usa!!! i sad NO !

 came home jumped on rockauto and found that i should have bought a COMPLETE kit from them

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=987394&cc=1350425&pt=5964&jsn=849

 i paid $100 for the edelbrock kit and as you can see they are $47 plus $20 for freight to me here in nz!! boy some times i am such a dumb arse !!! 

 i have now ordered the rockauto one... so i can get all the parts i need to correctly rebuild my carter! 😡

10 minutes ago, Fitzy said:

"beer is proof that God loves us."

yip he was a cleaver man!!! hahahahha

[64 kiwi boni]

ah, fitzy you may want to pop into mangatainoka factory.... where the tui beer is made ... its really quiet a nice place !!!!

Any you wonder why we love beer!!! hahahahha

 

[64 kiwi boni]

6 hours ago, Fitzy said:

I'd love to hear any thoughts that the guys might have on this topic.  Is it a myth, or is it really a restrictor, or is it actually what it's supposed to do?

yeah i would be interested if you guys have any feed back on this too  surely we are not reinventing the wheel here! carters are as common as the round wheel !! hahaha

[Fitzy]

I've never heard of Tui beer, but I'll be sure to give it a nudge.

And just what am I supposed to do with a bunch of nubile bikini clad girls? Oh, wait a minute - I remember now.

[64 kiwi boni]

1 hour ago, Fitzy said:

I've never heard of Tui beer, but I'll be sure to give it a nudge.

And just what am I supposed to do with a bunch of nubile bikini clad girls? Oh, wait a minute - I remember now.

sounds like you have a bad case of beer fog mate !!! hahaha

[Frosty]

Fitzy - there is only one thing a man can do when he's had too much wine, woman, and song......

 

Give up song mate!

[Fitzy]

No! I'll never give up singing Born To Be Alive! That normally gets rid of the women, leaving just beer and some really bad dance moves - a classic combination.

[64 kiwi boni]

1 hour ago, Fitzy said:

No! I'll never give up singing Born To Be Alive! That normally gets rid of the women, leaving just beer and some really bad dance moves - a classic combination.

A bit of knowing me knowing you. From abba does the trick too 

[Frosty]

What a pair of mashuganas! 

[JUSTA6]

23 minutes ago, Frosty said:

What a pair of mashuganas! 

You bumped your head again didn't you?

[64 kiwi boni]

5 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

You bumped your head again didn't you?

yeah frosty! you mustA bumped your head !!! your talking Yiddish   

[64 kiwi boni]

19 hours ago, Frosty said:

What a pair of mashuganas! 

justA for you frosty ......

AND

Edited June 17, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni