Thank you sir, it has been a very good day. I'm currently celebrating it with a glass of bourbon.

Don't you love a result? I shall have a beer and will raise my glass in your direction (or close to it) in recognition of your success.

Old cars will test you 'til breaking point, but as the I Ching says, "Perseverance Furthers."

You have perseveered (is that how you spell it???) and now you have earned yourself a sit down & a drink.

Sooo

What’s your dumb question then mate ?

Oh, that sound. THAT sound!! It is candy for my eardrums. I'm mixing up a few metaphors there, but it sounds so wonderful. It growls. As the great philosopher Chief Lone Watie said in the Clint Eastwood "Outlaw Josie Wales" once said - you "endeavored to persevere".

Rick

9 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Sooo

What’s your dumb question then mate ?

Let me check one more thing before publicly embarrassing myself Kiwi, than I may still have to ask.

6 hours ago, B52bombardier1 said:

As the great philosopher Chief Lone Watie said in the Clint Eastwood "Outlaw Josie Wales" once said - you "endeavored to persevere".

Rick

Great movie Rick!!!

19 hours ago, Wrongway said:

So, I have a dumb ass embarrassing question to ask that I SHOULD know the answer too! I might ask later or tomorrow. But today, right now I justa want to celebrate my small win with yall.

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Sounds great congrats!!!!

21 hours ago, Wrongway said:

So, I have a dumb ass embarrassing question to ask that I SHOULD know the answer too! I might ask later or tomorrow. But today, right now I justa want to celebrate my small win with yall.

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Sounded good, glad your making progress.

Here we are again y'all. Anybody that knows me and talks cars with me knows that I do actually enjoy tearing apart Edelbrock carbs, rebuilding them, cleaning them or whatever. It's kind of calming to me, like building a 1911, its relaxing MOST of the time. But every now and then you come across an issue and fate or gremlins or whatever you blame it on says HA, this shit isn't going to be that easy this time! So y'all seen the video of the test drive and all went well. We got her home and decided the next day to go for a longer drive. She wouldn't start. She tried but wouldn't. Fuel pressure was a bit off, so after adjusting and checking filters were clean, pump is pumping and everything else I could think of I decided that we were probably low on gas. I say low because my driveway is steep, I'm guessing that the fuel was all at the back of the tank and the pickup tube was in the front. My truck does that, hiding between a 1/8th and 1/4 of a tank till she gets on flat ground. My wife drove my son to get a 5 gallon can of gas. After adding new gas she would try to start, real low on power and would continue to die. Anytime I tried to keep her running by giving her more gas she would backfire out the carb. We spent enough time with y'all getting timing dialed in so I know that's not it. That could also be a fuel pressure issue. After 2 days of chasing ghosts and nothing working, I decided to add 5 more gallons of gas, thinking maybe with the angle of the driveway she might need justa bit more. Still nothing. Remember, we already had 2 Holley fuel pumps eat themselves up from the inside out, 1 regulator restricting fuel pressure and now what! So maybe bad gas? My wife told me she got gas from the same place we always do. This place was a Shell gas station till about 6 months ago and is now a Caseys. Then she tells me there is a sign out front saying they are closing for the next 6 months for repairs. Well shit! I pulled the fuel line and pumped a 20oz bottle full of gas and let it sit on the bench. My thoughts were if they were closing, they are going to run the tanks dry first and we may have gotten trash from their tanks. So, after smoking a cigarette I checked the gas I pumped out, WATER in the bottom of the bottle. I poured a half bottle of Berrymans in the tank and let it sit overnight. The next day I pumped out another bottle, not as much but still a bunch of water. So, I pulled the carb off and looked inside. Trash all in it. We justa rebuild and readjusted this carb after finding metal flakes in it from the Holley pumps. Now I'm waiting on a couple bottles of carb cleaner, and a new complete gasket set to get here Friday from Edelbrock, so I clean and rebuild the carb and clean out the whole fuel system AGAIN! By the way, y'all do remember this carb is brand new with less then 20 miles and going into the 2nd rebuild right? Fate, gremlins, dumb luck, call it what you will. Stay safe y'all.

Forgot to mention, after seeing the water in the bottle the second time I did get new gas from a different station down the road and stuck the fuel tank side of the hose into the can and started her. She ran off the new gas in the can with only an occasional backfire. But she felt strong and I credit those random pops to water or trash in the lines.

Goodness me - that's quite a story. There's a lot of crap in those float bowls. Why didn't your inline filter catch all that? You have one, right?

I would be gutted too !!!

That gas station has some explaining to do !!!!

4 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Goodness me - that's quite a story. There's a lot of crap in those float bowls. Why didn't your inline filter catch all that? You have one, right?

Yes sir I do, I have 2 actually, 1 is between the tank and the fuel pump and the other is between the fuel pressure gauge and the carburetor. I was wondering the same thing. When I stuck my finger in the bowls and wiped it across the trash was not gritty, when I pulled my finger out, I was able to smudge it. It was heavy enough to sink to the bottom, but when I stirred it up with my finger it floated up then sank again when I stopped. My only thought is that it's too fine for the filters to catch.

My trusted mechanic told me that modern unleaded ethanol blended fuel does weird things - particularly to old cars whose materials can't cope with the newfangled brew. I just wonder if the modern fuel you tipped in the other day has reacted with or loosened some crud somewhere between the tank & carb.

I comprehensively cleaned my tank, patched all the little pinholes around the top welded seam and then coated it with a dedicated fuel tank solution. That just MAY be your problem if you already haven't taken the tank out and performed a similar action.

Might also be worth changing out your inline filters. If that much crap actually made it to the carb, God only knows how much the filters caught.

Good luck!

Yeah, I figured I would pull the filters and wash them out, they are the serviceable glass filters, and I would blowout the lines. I know there are numerous methods to cleaning out a fuel tank, how did you go about it on your bro? I got the Edelbrock gasket kit today so I'm justa wanting on the carb cleaner to get here now.

Pull the tank (held in by straps that pass under it.) I can't remember the solution I used to clean it with - there'll be something out there. POR15 do a fuel tank internal coating. Follow the instructions to the letter and slosh it around with vigour because once it sets - it sets for life. Improper prep & application can lead to bits of dried solution flaking off and getting into your fuel lines, or worse so do it properly!

It's a job you'll only have to do once if you do it right. You'll have peace of mind once it's complete.

Yeah, I've used POR 15 for years on a number of different things but never a fuel tank. I'll check them out. Thanks bro

Justa be carefull with the por15 tank sealer mate, its super runny and it sticks like shit to a blanket !!! but its goooooood

Make sure you buy the POR-15 product for fuel tanks and not the standard POR-15 urethane for protecting steel from rust. The fuel tank kit will have a fluid for scrupulously cleaning the inside of the tank and another jug of some phosphoric acid that etches the metal a bit and leaves a coating of iron phosphate. The urethane has a very strong attraction to the iron phosphate.

I've done a half a dozen or so motorcycle fuel tanks with these kits and not one has failed me. However!! Big However!! There is no shortcut to the cleaning and etching process. It takes time and patience and I heat these fluids up to a boil to assist the chemistry.

If there is a lot of internal rust, I tumble the tanks with a few pounds of nuts, bolts and washers to loosen it. In the finest traditions of Kentucky and Louisiana red neck engineering technology, I duct tape these fuel tanks to the back wheel of a four wheeler and jack it all up so the wheel and tank can spin. Put a room fan on the engine, start the motor and adjust the idle RPM up a bit.

And then walk away because I can't stand all of that nutty rattling noise.

Rick

When it comes to ethanol fuel, you should consider replacing all your rubber and vacuum lines with new modern hose. Time, UV light, road chemicals and grime work to destroy original hoses from the outside, ethanol fuel will destroy original hoses from the inside! Modern replacement hoses are made to withstand ethanol fuel. So anything that can come in contact with fuel or fuel/engine gas like vacuum lines should be replaced as a safety item.

Also old carb needle and seats can be susceptible to ethanol damage, so inspect them and replace them if needed.

Edited March 15Mar 15 by Frosty

HAPPY FRIDAY THE 13TH YALL! Hope you've had a good day today.

So one and a half cans of carb cleaner and 5 hours later our new carburetor has a fresh rebuild,,, again. A trip to the parts house for new fuel filter elements and those are washed out, dried and reassembled. Fuel lines got blown out, they were replaced when I bought the carb. All that's left is dropping the tank for cleaning and resealing. All in all, it's been a pretty good day.

Edited March 14Mar 14 by Wrongway

3 hours ago, Wrongway said:

HAPPY FRIDAY THE 13TH YALL! Hope you've had a good day today.

So one and a half cans of carb cleaner and 5 hours later our new carburetor has a fresh rebuild,,, again. A trip to the parts house for new fuel filter elements and those are washed out, dried and reassembled. Fuel lines got blown out, they were replaced when I bought the carb. All that's left is dropping the tank for cleaning and resealing. All in all, it's been a pretty good day.

Well done mate

And not a single black cat crossed your path 😜

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So the way I understand it from the manual is that the only "seal" sealing the filler tube to the gas tank is an o-ring. Can anybody confirm this? I've sprayed the strap bolts with penetrating oil a couple times today and I plan on pulling the tank tomorrow if all goes as planned.

57 minutes ago, Wrongway said:

So the way I understand it from the manual is that the only "seal" sealing the filler tube to the gas tank is an o-ring. Can anybody confirm this? I've sprayed the strap bolts with penetrating oil a couple times today and I plan on pulling the tank tomorrow if all goes as planned.

Yes mate

It’s justA o ring

It’s a big fat one too

Thanks bro, should it be lubed before reinstalling?

2 hours ago, Wrongway said:

Thanks bro, should it be lubed before reinstalling?

Yes mate , as long as it looks ok

Otherwise grab a new one 🍻