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1963 Grand Prix

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14 hours ago, Wrongway said:

No sir Justa, that's why I figured I should also take the regulator apart and check it out and the filter right off the tank, between the tank and pump was clean. So it has to be between the pump and carb, The only things there are the pump and regulator.

A little steep bro? lol2 Yeah, justa little bit.

Today's gas also oxidises aluminum. Looking closer at your pic, could be. Check with a magnet, it could be from the inside of your carb.

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I wasn't able to get to it today, but I will tomorrow and I'll let y'all know what I find. Thanks

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So, the first picture is how the carb, filter, gauge, and regulator are set up on my car. Minus the glass the goes around the fuel filter, I dropped and broke it this morning. Luckily, I do have another one I justa have to disassemble my whisky cooler and take it off. So, the carb was obviously dirty, and I did find metal shavings inside the fuel inlet but not in the needle or seats and the little filters on the seats were clean (2nd pic). To answer Justa's question, yes, they were magnetic (3rd & 4th pic). On the right side (right side in pictures) parts there is something almost like a film on them as seen in pics 1043 &1045, not sure what it is. The floats were WAY out of spec 7/16 is where Edelbrock sets these at the factory. The fuel inlet side was 1/4" the other side was 3/8". The drop measurements should've been 15/16. The fuel inlet side was 3/4" and the other side 7/8". So after complete disassembly of the top end of the carb I soaked the stripped housing in warm dish water and scrubbed everything as clean as I could get it (yes really). Then blew everything out to make sure there was no water or shavings in anything. I then cleaned it with alcohol and Q tips. Yup, its freakin clean. I reassembled and reset both float adjustments. Tomorrow I'm going to look at the bottom and make sure everything is good and then disassemble and check out the regulator.

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2 hours ago, Wrongway said:

Luckily, I do have another one I justa have to disassemble my whisky cooler and take it off.

wtf !!! Please explain this comment …. With pictures please 🙏

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Well, I can't get the pictures to load Kiwi. I messaged the all knowing Mr. Ringo. Ill try back again later bro.

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Ringo is going to post the pics bro, but it figures that whiskey was the word that caught your attention rofl. So the perfect temp to store bourbon is between 65° and 70°. In a shop where the temps get 90° to 100° and the sun will strip the color and flavor from your whiskey I needed something to keep it shaded and cool. No way in hell I was paying $600 and up for a store bought whiskey cooler. So I used an old A/C I had sitting on a shelf and pieces and parts from around the shop to build my own, with a little more of "my style" to it. It actually works perfect. I have a data tracker in it, and it averages about 68°. You'll see the fuel filter in the pictures.

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Yeah Ringo, maybe they were justa too big. These loaded fine bro.

So I did disassemble and clean the bottom of the carburetor today. Other than some leftover crude from today's gas, it didn't look too bad. I also cleaned out the regulator and found no metal shavings in either one, so I have no idea where they came from. If everything goes as planned, I will put everything back on the car tomorrow.

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You have the same avs2 that I got

And they are a bloody awsum carb !!

Clearly your filter worked mate and what’s the bet that metal in the filter was from a dirty thread in the regulator or pump .

I bet you have no more issues 👍

Oh !!! And I love the cooler is very impressive !!!

So

Chilling the whiskey down retains flavour ????

I use old water chillers to cool my hydroponics during summer !

My plants don’t like temps over 20c they stress and slow down their growth !!!

The down side is I run a ph level between 5-6 and it eats the copper heat exchangers out

So I am slowly moving to stainless steel ones

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9 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Clearly your filter worked mate and what’s the bet that metal in the filter was from a dirty thread in the regulator or pump .

I'm hoping that's all it is. If the rain holds off I'm going to put it on and test it today.

9 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Oh !!! And I love the cooler is very impressive !!!

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Chilling the whiskey down retains flavour ????

Yes, it really does bro. I used to justa toss a bottle in the freezer like a lot of people do. But a learned that if the maker does not "chill filter" which a lot of distillers don't, that between 55° and 60° the whiskey can become cloudy due to the esters and fatty acids clumping together. It can also cause the esters and proteins to "break". It's great for intensifying the flavor. But most people won't drink a cloudy whiskey or bourbon because they don't understand why its cloudy and once this happens there's no way to make it clear again. I'm glad you like it bro, justa some old scrap metal, rivets and left over insulation from the Grand Prix but it works.

9 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

The down side is I run a ph level between 5-6 and it eats the copper heat exchangers out

So I am slowly moving to stainless steel ones

Eating the cooper, damn. Good luck with the stainless bro.

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Well we got everything bolted back together today. Before I did, I disconnected the fuel line and blew it out. I turned the regulator all the way down so not to over pressurize the system again. I put power to the car but didn't start it so I could adjust the regulator. After retightening a couple of fitting and making sure there were no leaks I powered up the car again and right before I could start her my son had me kill the power. He said the fuel pressure gauge spiked. It was at 4.5 and shot up to 10. When it did, he said there was no fuel in the filter or justa barely coming into the fuel filter. I had him turn the power on as I watch the fuel barely seep into the filter. The pressure was about 4, I could still hear the pump, but the sound had changed. About this time, it started raining and we had to call it day. We tried her one more time after picking up the tools and she sounded normal, the gauge read 4-4.5 and the filter filled up. So, I know if the pump isn't getting enough fuel it will change the sound of the pump. But if it was low on fuel or say out of gas would that cause a spike in the pressure? I put 5 gallons in her 3 days ago, but my driveway is steep, if the gas is all sitting at the rear and the pickup is on the front maybe the pump as starving?

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Doesn’t sound to be an issue mate

A big gulp of air will compress and give you a spike in pressure 👍

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So I decided I was going to take the fuel pump apart since I took the rest of the fuel system apart. Then came the rain. The rain finally stopped last night, and I took the pump a part today, I found where the metal shavings came from. So, the new Holley fuel pump looks to have steel removeable blades on the impeller and it looks like it was "chattering" inside. But only in one area, about 25% of the bowl. Not sure what could cause this, but I cleaned everything out really good and its back on the car. I'll start it tomorrow and see how it feels.

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Yeah, and it's a brand new pump. Bought it back when we were trying to figure out my timing issues.

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I would be all over Holley with your pic's and then who you bought it from.

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I agree bro, I'm going to reach out to Holley shortly and call Advanced auto where I bought it and see what they will do. I'll let y'all know what they say.

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1 hour ago, Wrongway said:

I agree bro, I'm going to reach out to Holley shortly and call Advanced auto where I bought it and see what they will do. I'll let y'all know what they say.

your onto it mate )

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Well Holley said that they have NEVER heard of this issue before and IF I can find the receipt, they will send me a shipping label to send it to them. After inspecting it and confirming that it was not tampered with or modified then they would send out a replacement. Can take up to 2 weeks from the time they receive it to inspect it and ship out the new one. They could not give any reason for what could've caused this since they have never heard of this and weren't interested in me emailing them pictures. I'm going to Advanced Auto tomorrow to talk to the manager and see what he can/will do. He wasn't there today.

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ahhhh the good ole "never heard of that before" line. Hopefully advance auto takes care of ya.

Advanced should have a record of your purchase if you have the rewards account.

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21 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Advanced should have a record of your purchase if you have the rewards account.

Yeah bro, I have a commercial account with them. They swapped it out and pulled up my receipt and gave me a copy. Normally I would've justa dealt with whoever was working but there's a new manager so I'm trying to build a relationship with him. The good news is I have a new pump and fuel pressure regulator in hand.

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Yall aren't gonna believe this, so I decided to wait for my son to get done with school to put in the fuel pump. I let him remove the old one and he watched me when I tore it apart and put it back together. So I figured I let him put it back it. Now I've never been accused of being a patient man, so I figured I'd get the "prep" work done, he could install it and then we would go for a ride. Nope, that would be too easy. I put the fittings in the new pump and tighten them down. I started putting the fittings into the BRAND NEW regulator and the fitting that goes into the port, that goes from the regulator to the carb would only go in about 3 threads. So of course I tried to tighten it with a wrench, nope locked up. I pulled the fitting out and looked in the port. It was only threaded between a 1/4 and 1/2 way down! Come on Holley! Back to the parts house to swap out the regulator, again. Guess what, they didn't have one in stock because this regulator and fuel pump come as a set. So I had the guy get my old regulator from the back, I tore both down on the counter and rebuilt my old regulator with the parts from the new regulator and put all my old parts in the new housing to send back. While I was swapping the guts around the parts guy was reading through the paperwork that came with the pump and regulator. This is where I got confused, can somebody explain why Holly is selling a fuel pump with factory set pressure of 14psi with a regulator that has a pressure range of 4.5- 9psi? By the way, this is a set. To me it seems like the pump would be putting out more pressure than the regulator can handle. Anyways, pump is on and it was dark when we got back from the parts house so the regulator and test drive will be tomorrow after I call Holley. Holley part#, 12-802-1

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This is what happens when a bunch of private equity people buy a company. They often ruin it.

Rick

Sold as a pair. That way they make sure you have a regulator in the system.

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