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1963 bonneville Safari rebuild

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I second Fabcraft Metalworks, I spoke to them a couple years back when I was thinking about going posi. Extremely knowledgeable people. They're not cheap, but what is now a days. 

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    I made a start on installing the L98 engine today  first was to get the sump swapped over , this  came out of a Holden , state side it would be a g8 2009 l98 with 6l80 trans … but first thin

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    So motor back out and off with the nasty looking mounts !!! then motor back into the right location , And just finished the day with making cardboard templates, and thinking about how I want

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    The Holden sump had the dip stick coming up out of the sump , the new sump came with everything needed including a new pick up bolts and dipstick that passes down through the block into the smaller su

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8 hours ago, Bonne61 said:

So let me get this right...nothing major except for panel, paint, engine, trans and wheels 🤔

And, it's a Pontiac 😬

Sure, you should slip that in easily a little under $80k 🤣

Haha sooo true Paul ! Nothing major … compared to what I had to do with my 64 !:rofl:

6 hours ago, 31pontiac said:

fabcraftmetalworks.com should have anything you may need for your 9.3.  They specialize in them.  

Thank you Tim , I see they have everything I would need 👍

I think having the factory diff is the wise move , I still have to go through and heck everything regardless of which diff I use , but I know this one’s geometry is correct ! 

2 hours ago, Wrongway said:

I second Fabcraft Metalworks, I spoke to them a couple years back when I was thinking about going posi. Extremely knowledgeable people. They're not cheap, but what is now a days. 

I paid $1200 nzd for a posi head for the Camaro 12 years ago , so their price for a 9.3 one isn’t too bad 😵

Kiwi - The top code A224 is the casting date - January 22, 1964.

The. 6. 8817 code doesn’t match anything I have looked at thus far. It maybe a foundry code but it’s not matching up to anything I am looking at. Are there any other casting numbers or codes elsewhere on the diff or axle tubes?

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32 minutes ago, Frosty said:

Kiwi - The top code A224 is the casting date - January 22, 1964.

The. 6. 8817 code doesn’t match anything I have looked at thus far. It maybe a foundry code but it’s not matching up to anything I am looking at. Are there any other casting numbers or codes elsewhere on the diff or axle tubes?

i am out there now frosty, i will have a look on the axle tubes like Fitzy suggested 👍

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The only markings i found was a big L on driverside tube and a 7 on the passenger side tube, so i went ahead and just spin the wheel and worked out its a 3.6ish ratio about half way between 3.5 and 3.75IMG_6295.jpeg

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very productive day today, the complete frame stripped 
 

 

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and like any of us at at 62, a few cracks and blemishes to fix :rofl:, this one in the front crossmeber that holds the lower control arm and sway bar 

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And finally the 63 is complete !!!!:rofl: shes offically a trailer queen!!!:rofl:

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i would thank my team, mil and waukee

and my sponsor speights summit ultra :rofl: with out these tools it would be a much longer harder job stripping down the frame ready for prep  and paint ... which starts next weekend ....fingers crossed the boss doesnt have me lined up to build, paint, renovate, anything else !!!!!:stars:

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Thats awesome bro!!!

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guys, i am looking for a brake soultion ! i now have a ponti rear in the girl and i am sure theres lots of you that have done the aftermarket thing with discs on all corners,, what are my options ???? 

What about that guy you bought the kit from for the Bonneville? Will it not work on the 63' bro?

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2 minutes ago, Wrongway said:

What about that guy you bought the kit from for the Bonneville? Will it not work on the 63' bro?

the 64 all stock mate, it has the 8 luggers on it and they are perfect ! super good big fat arse drum brakes 

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Gotcha

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4 minutes ago, Wrongway said:

Gotcha

your such a night owl mate !! i see its near 1 in the morning ! i am sitting here having a beer at near 5pm sunday night ! its raining and the temp is in the mid 15c 

i see fab works sells a willwood rear kit, but , i dont need to pay for a name brand ! ... i remeber something about ss brakes when i was building the 64 frame .... might have to do a bit of web surfing 🏄‍♂️

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Yeah, I have sleep issues bro. But at least its peaceful this time of night. It's been raining here off and on the last two days and stormed pretty bad last night. It's 59F and clear right now but rain again most of the week. It goes from cold in the winter to rain for a month or so then blistering hot. 

 

I can send you a list of donor cars that I got parts from but with the 8 luggers I'm pretty sure that won't help bro.

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17 minutes ago, Wrongway said:

Yeah, I have sleep issues bro. But at least its peaceful this time of night. It's been raining here off and on the last two days and stormed pretty bad last night. It's 59F and clear right now but rain again most of the week. It goes from cold in the winter to rain for a month or so then blistering hot. 

 

I can send you a list of donor cars that I got parts from but with the 8 luggers I'm pretty sure that won't help bro.

completely understand about the sleep thing mate ! i have sleep apnia, doesnt stop me for building cars though !:rofl:

yes please if you can send me what you used, i was lucky with my 64 she already had the 8 luggres and all i had to do was a fresh.

On the 63, this diff i am using, it has heaps of parts missing , i do have the backing plates but one whole drum is missing ..... hmmmm, maybe i dont disc the rear! , i could rockauto the thing !!! and do discs only on the front ! its only a cruiser not a race car !!

a willwoood $1000 rear kit is near 2 k in nzd by the time i get it here !!! might be a bit hard to convince the accounts department on that one ..........:stars:

 the accounts department is about to nail me for what i about to do for the 400 motor i want to build for the 68 !!!.... i feel allllll my browny points will dissapear into the black hole when i ask for the coin to go shopping at tin indian !!!:rofl:

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Well, the parts list I'll send you will be what I used for the 4-wheel disk conversion on my 63'. But I will get it from the GP file in the morning and send it to you bro. My wife doesn't share our sleep issues, and I don't want to wake her up :lol2:

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4 minutes ago, Wrongway said:

Well, the parts list I'll send you will be what I used for the 4-wheel disk conversion on my 63'. But I will get it from the GP file in the morning and send it to you bro. My wife doesn't share our sleep issues, and I don't want to wake her up :lol2:

fair  call mate, my boss doesnt too, :cheers:

 and shes head of the accounts department .....:rofl:

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It's a Safari wagon - drums on the back will be ample. In fact, I'm wondering why you're bothering with the stroker. My built 389 has more power than I'll ever need.

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Because brother Fitzy, a stroker in a wagon is justa cool man. No other reason needed :lol2:

And let me cast my vote right now to lower it! :naughty:

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33 minutes ago, Fitzy said:

It's a Safari wagon - drums on the back will be ample. In fact, I'm wondering why you're bothering with the stroker. My built 389 has more power than I'll ever need.

stokers not for the 63 mate !!! its for the next monster Jack Nicholson Yes GIF

the 63 already has been set up for her L98 and 6l80 ve  holden power train 

the 63 is the boss's car ! i will make  it a nanna car , like she is !!

 i have plans for the "other car " Boris Karloff Film GIF by hoppip

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Oh, of course - I forgot. In which case, 572 cubes will barely be enough. But...nanna says drums on the back will be fine. In your own words: KISS.

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1 hour ago, Fitzy said:

Oh, of course - I forgot. In which case, 572 cubes will barely be enough. But...nanna says drums on the back will be fine. In your own words: KISS.

But what your really saying is 

do discs ! 😜

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4 hours ago, Wrongway said:

Because brother Fitzy, a stroker in a wagon is justa cool man. No other reason needed :lol2:

And let me cast my vote right now to lower it! :naughty:

Yep, gotta go low - that'll look way cool 😎

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Oh well, unblock a few more dunnies and you can have diamond embedded gold plated discs.

Your missus will take it for one drive, won't believe how difficult it is to manouevre (a bit bigger than a Mini) and it'll go back in the shed.

Just like Sandy Nelson, drums will be fine.

Ok bro, so the list I was able to compile of donor vehicles when I did my conversion are as follows, but like I said it probably won't help much with 8 luggers. Most of my parts came from a Riviera, but I ordered them new from my local parks house or online. Hope this helps. If there's anything else let me know.

1978-83 Chevy Monte Carlo, El Camino, Chevelle & Malibu

1978-83 Oldsmobile Cutlass & F-85

1978 -83 Pontiac Grand Prix, Tempest, Le Mans, GTO, Grand Am, & Bonniville

1979-85 Cadillac El Dorado

1979-85 Oldsmobile Toronado

1979-85 Buick Rivera

 

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9 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Oh well, unblock a few more dunnies and you can have diamond embedded gold plated discs.

Your missus will take it for one drive, won't believe how difficult it is to manouevre (a bit bigger than a Mini) and it'll go back in the shed.

Just like Sandy Nelson, drums will be fine.

i hear ya !:cheers:

9 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Your missus will take it for one drive, won't believe how difficult it is to manouevre (a bit bigger than a Mini) and it'll go back in the shed.

in the shed !!!:rofl:

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2 hours ago, Wrongway said:

Ok bro, so the list I was able to compile of donor vehicles when I did my conversion are as follows, but like I said it probably won't help much with 8 luggers. Most of my parts came from a Riviera, but I ordered them new from my local parks house or online. Hope this helps. If there's anything else let me know.

1978-83 Chevy Monte Carlo, El Camino, Chevelle & Malibu

1978-83 Oldsmobile Cutlass & F-85

1978 -83 Pontiac Grand Prix, Tempest, Le Mans, GTO, Grand Am, & Bonniville

1979-85 Cadillac El Dorado

1979-85 Oldsmobile Toronado

1979-85 Buick Rivera

 

Mate 

lets start at backing plates ?

what did you use to bolt up to your stub axles ? 
On the front ? 

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