1957 Chieftain restomod Build

[64 kiwi boni]

My next issue is that this is a 63 block 

it doesn’t have the material like 64 and onwards  for the block mounted starter motor . Which is going to be an issue with me wanting a over drive trans !! 
more research required I feel !  

[JUSTA6]

Not much research on this one.  Your stuck with the power glide.

[JUSTA6]

Find your best deal on this setup, cut the intake and weld the supercharger plate to your intake.  It all stays under the hood.

https://treperformance.com/i-23901863-chevy-small-block-1962-1968-weiand-short-nose-satin-142-street-supercharger-kit.html?utm_term=&identifiers=pla-4576648453400810&Campaign=**LP - Shop - pMax - Superchargers&CampaignId=674018963&AdGroup=1&AdGroupId=1168781999871293&AdId=73049101912772&Network=o&msclkid=fd3633ed2f301da476ba50d10af09c2b&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=**LP - Shop - pMax - Superchargers&utm_content=1

This is the Weiand kit, maybe call on intake options.  This is about the same as the B&M kit.

[JUSTA6]

This is another place to poke the bear for some answers.  They mainly supply newer engines, but might be able to help with the intake prob.

http://www.psesuperchargers.com/categories/Pontiac.htm

[64 kiwi boni]

5 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Find your best deal on this setup, cut the intake and weld the supercharger plate to your intake.  It all stays under the hood.

https://treperformance.com/i-23901863-chevy-small-block-1962-1968-weiand-short-nose-satin-142-street-supercharger-kit.html?utm_term=&identifiers=pla-4576648453400810&Campaign=**LP - Shop - pMax - Superchargers&CampaignId=674018963&AdGroup=1&AdGroupId=1168781999871293&AdId=73049101912772&Network=o&msclkid=fd3633ed2f301da476ba50d10af09c2b&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=**LP - Shop - pMax - Superchargers&utm_content=1

This is the Weiand kit, maybe call on intake options.  This is about the same as the B&M kit.

yes JustA that weiand unit would be the answer, as that mounting plate can be made and welded to a injection manifold👍

[Last Indian]

16 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

My next issue is that this is a 63 block 

it doesn’t have the material like 64 and onwards  for the block mounted starter motor . Which is going to be an issue with me wanting a over drive trans !! 
more research required I feel !  

I’m not doubting JustA, no doubt in my mind what he says is how this is viewed and dealt with! But this is kind of what I got paid big bucks to do! Figure out how to do something that wasn’t supposed to be able to be done. So while I’m a bit familiar with the issue I’ve never seen it. So Kiwi if you can show me some detailed picture of the issue & the differences I’ll see what I can shake out.

[64 kiwi boni]

4 hours ago, Last Indian said:

I’m not doubting JustA, no doubt in my mind what he says is how this is viewed and dealt with! But this is kind of what I got paid big bucks to do! Figure out how to do something that wasn’t supposed to be able to be done. So while I’m a bit familiar with the issue I’ve never seen it. So Kiwi if you can show me some detailed picture of the issue & the differences I’ll see what I can shake out.

Legend Last indian ! 

 When i get time i will post some pictures of the 63 block and my 64 block where the starter mounts and you can see the differance between the two. 65 they drill the material that 64 had and from there on all starters where block mounted, guess this was because of the new turbo hydromatic  trans 

[Andy H]

15 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Legend Last indian ! 

 When i get time i will post some pictures of the 63 block and my 64 block where the starter mounts and you can see the differance between the two. 65 they drill the material that 64 had and from there on all starters where block mounted, guess this was because of the new turbo hydromatic  trans 

Check out butler performance, looks like they have a starter motor plate 

https://butlerperformance.com/i-24452959-pontiac-starter-adapter-mount-starter-on-1964-and-earlier-blocks-bpi-p010004.html

[64 kiwi boni]

2 hours ago, Andy H said:

Check out butler performance, looks like they have a starter motor plate 

https://butlerperformance.com/i-24452959-pontiac-starter-adapter-mount-starter-on-1964-and-earlier-blocks-bpi-p010004.html

Wow ! Perfect ! Thanks Andy 

that solves that problem 

It very well looks like I should open account with butlers 

[Last Indian]

25 minutes ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Wow ! Perfect ! Thanks Andy 

that solves that problem 

It very well looks like I should open account with butlers 

See told you I could shake it out! All I had to do say it & wahla!  
Good catch Andy!

[Andy H]

2 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Wow ! Perfect ! Thanks Andy 

that solves that problem 

It very well looks like I should open account with butlers 

Don't think you can go wrong with butler, not the cheapest but they got a lot of experience.

[64 kiwi boni]

5 hours ago, Last Indian said:

See told you I could shake it out! All I had to do say it & wahla!  
Good catch Andy!

hmmm, i think that is applied knowledge matehaha

 But thats why i am here!

like all of us ! to share knowledge ! 

Why reinvent the wheel when some super cleaver pontiac guys have been there done that ! aye !

 All i am doing is going down a rabbit hole that is very specific too our cars 

3 hours ago, Andy H said:

Don't think you can go wrong with butler, not the cheapest but they got a lot of experience.

yip i completly agree mate.

best i work my arse off ! butlers are going to get heaps out of me ! 

[Last Indian]

18 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

hmmm, i think that is applied knowledge matehaha

 But thats why i am here!

like all of us ! to share knowledge ! 

Why reinvent the wheel when some super cleaver pontiac guys have been there done that ! aye !

 All i am doing is going down a rabbit hole that is very specific too our cars 

True enough mate! Pretty much nothing is invented anymore! We all borrow in one way or another from something that’s already been done! Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. That makes us smart! Not stupid! Like you say, why reinvent the wheel? Just make a different one.

[64 kiwi boni]

You and i are so on the same page here mate !

i want to build a very special Pontiac, not just another street machine, but one that has had lots of input from the likes of all you reading this.

To date i have built cars all by myself, with very little input from anyone else. 

i want the 57 to be different. i want ideas and input all the way along, and right now its all about the plan, then you guys can help me blow shit loads of money building the car !!

The cool thing along the way is using parts that have a story attached to them like Dwight's 389 that i am going to use!,the c4 suspension from the guy with a 6/71 blower in his lounge,  this to me is important because it forms the whole cars personality. 

i have only just shown pictures of the 57 to my club mates at taupo rod and custom club, and it sounds like they want to do a club run to my place to kick its tires !!! best i throw on some burn out tires i feel !!!

i have a total of 7 rims and tires that are 5x5 stud pattern 

wish i could find a couple more ! but this is nz 😡

and that bloomin exchange rate is socking at the moment !

[64 kiwi boni]

On 10/6/2022 at 3:01 PM, Andy H said:

Don't think you can go wrong with butler, not the cheapest but they got a lot of experience.

Andy, i went on butlers web site and made myself a account !... please dont tell the boss !!! hahahaha 

or i will blame you 

oh and i stuck a whole bunch of parts on my wish list !!!

Edited October 8, 2022 by 64 kiwi boni

[Last Indian]

Kiwi, look at this a little at a time! I don’t want you to mess yourself !

This is a 1956 Star Chief! What you want Is tucked nicely under the hood!

https://www.fusionmotorco.com/vehicles/839/1956-pontiac-star-chief-convertible-resto-mod

Oh! By the way, it’s 900hp!

Edited October 8, 2022 by Last Indian

[64 kiwi boni]

1 hour ago, Last Indian said:

Kiwi, look at this a little at a time! I don’t want you to mess yourself !

This is a 1956 Star Chief! What you want Is tucked nicely under the hood!

https://www.fusionmotorco.com/vehicles/839/1956-pontiac-star-chief-convertible-resto-mod

Oh! By the way, it’s 900hp!

Yip I did !!!! 
now that’s what I envisaged !
it does look like a ls motor though .  

[Last Indian]

1 hour ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Yip I did !!!! 
now that’s what I envisaged !
it does look like a ls motor though .  

It is, it’s a LSX crate engine. Still not that much of a leap to get to the 389. 

[64 kiwi boni]

Scored some c6 wheels today along with a carpet set…. Not that I am any where near finish/details stuff but the price was right . As the guy bought them from rock auto and miss ordered … he needed 2 door sedan carpets and ordered 2 door hard top ones … his lost my gain 👍

The C6 wheels have the correct offset for my c4 suspension i will be using under the 57.

rears are 19x 11 and fronts are 18x9

and should fill the fender openings well !

[64 kiwi boni]

On 10/9/2022 at 5:47 AM, Last Indian said:

Kiwi, look at this a little at a time! I don’t want you to mess yourself !

This is a 1956 Star Chief! What you want Is tucked nicely under the hood!

https://www.fusionmotorco.com/vehicles/839/1956-pontiac-star-chief-convertible-resto-mod

Oh! By the way, it’s 900hp!

last Indian,, this is certainly impressive ! i really like the colour too!! 

 i know its early days but.. i am a blue guy! more so than what the boss wants, which is red.

Things i note.... the custom fire wall looks very clean, and the super charger induction, even wayy more cool plumbing. i can make that !! but that pan in front of the induction over the top of the radiator !! now that with its negative detail beading... i am thinking how the heck did they do that !.. yeah ok a bead roller but with a radious bend in it too !!! wow !

Edited November 9, 2022 by 64 kiwi boni

[JUSTA6]

10 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Scored some c6 wheels today along with a carpet set…. Not that I am any where near finish/details stuff but the price was right . As the guy bought them from rock auto and miss ordered … he needed 2 door sedan carpets and ordered 2 door hard top ones … his lost my gain 👍

The C6 wheels have the correct offset for my c4 suspension i will be using under the 57.

rears are 19x 11 and fronts are 18x9

and should fill the fender openings well !

Grab stuff when you can, esp if it's a great deal.  Gonna need it sometime.

[KiwiStarChief]

Wheels look cool! Now why don't I find stuff like that, as I could do with a new set of carpets.

[64 kiwi boni]

3 hours ago, KiwiStarChief said:

Wheels look cool! Now why don't I find stuff like that, as I could do with a new set of carpets.

i know ! you just have to watch trademe !

Edited November 10, 2022 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

On 11/10/2022 at 6:12 PM, 64 kiwi boni said:

i know ! you just have to watch trademe !

sorry guys i should explain... thats kiwi version of ebay.

back in the day it was a fantastic place to buy and sell, then it got sold to some big fish who basically shuffed it... now its full of junk traders who think they need to place 200 adds for 1 thermstat for your smal block chev. basically spam ! ffs !

and as you all know fb is the place now to look for parts....aye wrongway !! 🙂....very good score mate.... sooo looking forward to seeing that hood fitment

[Frosty]

There is also Craigslist here in the states too. Canada has kijiji- their eBay. I surf both.

I would really, really, really like to figure out how to get a '68 or '69 Beaumont out of Canuckistan. Beaumont was a separate mark or brand, sold only in Canada. They were a cross between a Chevelle and a Pontiac GTO. Chevy powertrains but a lot of Pontiac styling cues. Beaumonts are equally accepted at Chevy or Pontiac shows.