To 68 or not !!!

[64 kiwi boni]

Like this two lane 

 

Edited November 21 by 64 kiwi boni

[Ringo64]

20 minutes ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Like this two lane 

 

239 is my area code. Where’d you find this? lol. 

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

22 minutes ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Like this two lane 

 

Yes... On both the items...Wonder they come as a package deal..??🤔🤔

[64 kiwi boni]

2 hours ago, Ringo64 said:

239 is my area code. Where’d you find this? lol. 

find what ??????? hehehe.

i am sooo with two lane on this !!     that chrome justA pops on a gto !!! and it really doesnt look like its hard to clean !! 

my cleaning lady seam very happy !!

[Frosty]

Remember the old saying boys. It if has tires or ta-tas, YOU WILL eventually have problems with it. 

Edited November 21 by Frosty

[64 kiwi boni]

got this sent this morning .... frosty it looks to read 9799916

Edited November 22 by 64 kiwi boni

[Frosty]

Hmmmm… I don’t see a casting with those numbers, if I am reading it right. 9790916.

i don’t see any casting numbers with that combination. However I did find a 1970 350 YU engine code with a casting number of 9799916. It’s a 255 HP motor. 8.8 compression ratio. Automatic transmission car. #11 heads. Two barrel carb. #11 heads have a 1.96 intake and 1.66 exhaust valves. 
 

350 2-barrels were the base engine in the Tempest and Lemans. However, this does not appear to be the numbers matching engine if it is a 1970 engine in a 1968 Lemans.

Edited November 22 by Frosty

[64 kiwi boni]

26 minutes ago, Frosty said:

Hmmmm… I don’t see a casting with those numbers, if I am reading it right. 9790916.

i don’t see any casting numbers with that combination. However I did find a 1970 350 YU engine code with a casting number of 9799916. It’s a 255 HP motor. 8.8 compression ratio. Automatic transmission car. #11 heads. Two barrel carb. #11 heads have a 1.96 intake and 1.66 exhaust valves. 
 

350 2-barrels were the base engine in the Tempest and Lemans. However, this does not appear to be the numbers matching engine if it is a 1970 engine in a 1968 Lemans.

i agree with you !!!

 recon its a 1970 350 motor based on what this guy has sent me 

that means it will be a turbo 350 trans ??? 

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

I 100% agree with Frosty...That the engine is Not original to the car..The Number that is stamped on the the pad located on the front Right hand Bank of the engine block...Will be what tells the history...The last 4 digits of that number (9284..??) Will match the last 4 digits of The VIN # of the car it was originally installed in...Back in 1970/71...I would bet that the last 4 digits stamped on the Engine...Don't match the the last 4 digits of the VIn # of the car you're looking at...100% Guaranteeing that the engine is Not Original to the car..

It is more than likely (but not 100%) That the transmission is a Turbo 350..An easy way to identify a Turbo 350 Transmission...

The Turbo 350 will have a Manual Kick down cable that is attached to the transmission Via a 1/8 allen head bolt through a plastic O ring fitting that is located about an inch or so in front of the Dipstick Tube Where it goes into the Transmission Case...On the passenger side...Depending on the application the other end attaches to the side of the carburetor inconjuntion with the throttle cable...Although in certain instances the Kick down cable will run through the Firewall directly to the top of the gas pedal Assembly...

I know this is probably way too much unnecessary Info...It's 1:30 AM Friday Morning here...and I'm Bored and have Nothing Better to do...

TLBT...

Edited November 22 by TWO LANE BLACK TOP
Spellig

[Frosty]

To Two Lanes point, the 350TH was the standard automatic transmission for the 350 V8 along with a 10-bolt rear end. The diff would be open unless it was optionally ordered with a posi. I also suspect the car has no factory rear sway bar.

[64 kiwi boni]

You know all this information is justA making me more  excited to go see it aye !!!!!

pfft if it’s a 1970 engine 

as long as it’s complete 

and turns 

I can haggle with the guy over the final deal 

thank you both !!!

you know more is to follow aye !!! 
watch this space !!!

And justA think about what can be done with an old rattly lemons !!!!

Keys not included 😜

Edited November 22 by 64 kiwi boni

[Frosty]

5 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

watch this space !!!

And justA think about what can be done with an old rattly lemons !!!!

Why does this feel like a Kiwi version of.....

[64 kiwi boni]

ok, so the trigger has been pulled !!! 

i am going to look at it tomorrow !!!!

i am more than happy that my left testical has been removed by the boss for adding another pontiac to the fleet !! i can still walk talk and drink so alllllll good 

Edited November 28 by 64 kiwi boni

[Fitzy]

From the pic of the red car, I see there's a rather attractive bonnet mascot attached to it, in which case you should defo buy it.

The Boss...well, she'll have to get used to you spending extra time in the shed polishing it.

Yes, I said polishing it...

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

In case anyone is interested...

1968 Pontiac VIN decode...(all models)

1st digit..2 = Pontiac

2nd and 3rd digits =

23 = Firebird

33 = Tempest 

35 = Tempest Custom

37 = Lemans

39 = Tempest Safari

42 = GTO

52 = Catalina

56 = Executive

62 = Bonneville

66 = Grand Prix

4th and 5th digits =

11 = 2 Door Sedan

27 = 2 Door Sport Coupe

35 = Station Wagon (2 seat)

37 = Hard Top Sport Coupe

39 = 4 Door Hardtop

45 = Station Wagon (3 seat)

57 = Hard Top coupe

67 = Convertable

69 = 4 Door Sedan

87 = Hard Top Coupe

6th Digit = model year 

8 = 1968

7th digit = Assembly Plant

B = Baltimore MD.

C = Southgate CA.

E = Linden NJ.

G = Framington MA.

K = Kansas City MO.

L = Van Nuys CA.

P = Pontiac MI.

R = Arlington TX.

U = Lordstown OH.

X = Kansas City KS.

Z = Fremont CA.

Last 6 Digits = Production and Sequence numbers..

8 Cylinder = 10000+

6 cylinder = 60000+

Kiwi..With this VIN guide you should able to tell exactly what the car really is...And where it came from... Hope this will help you in your negotiation...

Good Luck..

TLBT..

 

 

Edited November 29 by TWO LANE BLACK TOP

[64 kiwi boni]

2 hours ago, Fitzy said:

From the pic of the red car, I see there's a rather attractive bonnet mascot attached to it, in which case you should defo buy it.

The Boss...well, she'll have to get used to you spending extra time in the shed polishing it.

Yes, I said polishing it...

your funny Fitzy 

two lane , here is what he sent me .....

[64 kiwi boni]

Here is the carrot I will dangle to the guy 

and see if I can do a deal !!!!

One 2006 Holden crewman cross 6 

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

12 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

your funny Fitzy 

two lane , here is what he sent me .....

The VIN # Is on top of the dash board...Visible through the lower left corner of The Windshield...

This is the Firewall Tag it has the paint/interior colors...Have decoded it as best as I can..

68-237= Time and date built..

37 = (body type) Lemans..

PON 11156 =(assy plant) Pontiac MI.

223 (interior trim code) = Black Vinyl..(bench seat)

T-T (paint code) = Primavera Beige...(solid color)

TLBT...

 

Edited November 29 by TWO LANE BLACK TOP

[64 kiwi boni]

sorry for the delay !! it was a long weekend !!! trip to Auckland to grab the 68 then xmas parade and pub yesterday !!!

here is the vin Two lane 

 

And some new picture ……

Edited December 1 by 64 kiwi boni

[64 kiwi boni]

it has rust around the bottom oif the back window, and both lower front fenders, floors are solid as well as the trunk floor 

interior is wrongway ! it caddy stuff, the door cards are missing , dash is a mess , engine is a 1970 350 and turbo 350 trans 

motor isnt running but i can turn is and has compression , starter is missing ! drive shaft is in the Trunk, power steer isnt hooked  brake are manual with drum front .........

rear bumper is toast, front is only tidy but straight...

my first thought is to get it running and moving under its own steam !

oh ! hood is toast too ! lowwer sill trim is missing !!!!

[Frosty]

Here is your break down for the vin…

2 = Pontiac Motor Division

37 = Lemans, GTO=42, Custom S=35, Tempest=33

37 = 2-door coupe, 67=convertible

8 = 1968 model year

P = Pontiac Michigan assembly plant

154318  = the 154318th car produced at Pontiac assembly for 1968. Some plants only produced a single body style, while some made multiple cars such as A and B bodies at the same plant.

Other assembly plant codes are:

K - Kansas City Missouri

Z - Fremont California

B - Baltimore Maryland

G - Framington Massachusetts 

R - Arlington Texas

[64 kiwi boni]

So Neal, when i am looking for parts i can hunt down chevelle parts and know they will fit ? 

things like glass and suspension bits ? 

[Frosty]

Only word of caution is dont mix convertible glass with coupe glass. Suspension parts are interchangeable .

 

[64 kiwi boni]

5 hours ago, Frosty said:

Only word of caution is dont mix convertible glass with coupe glass. Suspension parts are interchangeable .

 

thanks Frosty, gto gear here is very very rare ! but chevelle parts way more common 

[Frosty]

Another source of front suspension parts would be 1st and 2nd gen Camaros and Firebirds. The front subframe geometry of a F-body is essentially a cut off A-body frame. So control arms, sway bars, steering boxes, and engine mounts from a F-body interchange with the A-body.

What's nice is you can use the larger 2nd-gen WS6 Trans Am sway bar and bolt it to the '68 frame to improve handling for cheap. You can take a 3rd gen faster ratio steering box (stock A body is 24:1 - roughly 4.5 turns lock to lock), to around 12:1 or 16:1 from a 3rd gen IROC Z or WS6 TA.

Edited December 2 by Frosty