So it begins...Thankz Biden

[JUSTA6]

https://autos.yahoo.com/amphtml/nevada-looking-close-classic-car-180000496.html

The UK is also already passing a 20% import tax on top of of the 10% sales tax to bring a classic car over from the mainland.

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

This probably isn't the place for this...

We are all going to have things to Thank Obiden for in the near future...

Have been "collecting" ordinance for the last several years...🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[64 kiwi boni]

What a joke, our classic cars are hardly ever used Daily, !!!

i bet every one of you reading this could count how many trips your baby has done in the last 12 months! 

Nevada are barking up the wrong tree !, drive down any highway and look how many cars (daily drivers ) have 1 person in them !

 

[JUSTA6]

Bigger issue to keep in mind is value of our pride N joys.   They could become worthless after all the time and money spent.  We all remember cash for clunkers.   As TWO lane said, We are all going to have things to Thank Obiden for in the near future...    He has spent the 1st 2 weeks practicing his signature (as per alzheimer's therapy) Somebody needs to move him onto colors N shapes before we have nothing left of the country.

[Frosty]

You know the old legislature's adage: "We never met a tax we didn't like!" - adage follow-up "...of course we are going to exempt ourselves from it!"

[JUSTA6]

Funny the tax he JUSTA penned in, happens to be the largest tax hike in US history!  Where's the uproar??   And he still wants to take away our motorized investments.  Anyone notice in the last 2 weeks, gas has gone up .40 a gal????   I sure did here in the Mitten.

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

The price of Gas started going up here In NC..The day after the election...Right at 50 cents per gallon so far and rising daily... Non ethonal 93 octane has gone up even more than that....There also legislative talk here about a mileage tax....

Welcome back to the Paris climate accords...

 

Edited February 9, 2021 by TWO LANE BLACK TOP

[Last Indian]

47 minutes ago, JUSTA6 said:

Bigger issue to keep in mind is value of our pride N joys.   They could become worthless after all the time and money spent.  We all remember cash for clunkers.   As TWO lane said, We are all going to have things to Thank Obiden for in the near future...    He has spent the 1st 2 weeks practicing his signature (as per alzheimer's therapy) Somebody needs to move him onto colors N shapes before we have nothing left of the country.

You hit the nail on the head my friend! And drove it clean through the 4x4! Bidien’s not at the helm! The other guy with the big O to start his name is running the show! If any doubt that; it’s your right! There’s a novel idea! Free choice, free speech! Wow! Who knew!

But, there is actually a large amount of proof that he is! 
 

The saddest part of the whole thing relevant to the article is the big big lie! And nobody I mean nobody with any real power will step forward and make the people in this world understand! There is actually scientific proof that CO2 doesn’t effect global warming, fact! Through core samples at the Antarctic & fossil analysis from around the world we know that there have been many periods of increased CO2, and guess what earth temperatures actually went down! Guess what else? Our current CO2 reading of 410ppm is actually quite low compared to other previous times history when they have been as high as 9000ppm! 
Did you know that as recently as 1000 years ago Viking were raising cattle, sheep and goats on Greenland were they had extensive grasslands at that time! Yet 200 years later they started abandoning them because Greenlands temperatures started to fall! All true! Still believe greenhouse effects cause climate change? Still believe car emissions, industrialization and CO2 cause climate change!?

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

I realize that this is not the forum for this...But I'm going to say it anyway...The fear of climate change that the gullible masses ( The ones who just smart enough to do what they're told without Question or hesitation...But dumb enough to think by doing so makes them smarter than everyone else) are the ones buying into it...The "climate crisis" is merely the vehicle being used to gain control of every facet of our daily lives from cradle to grave...

Unity = Submit and Obey..or we will crush you...

Edited February 9, 2021 by TWO LANE BLACK TOP

[Last Indian]

21 minutes ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

I realize that this is not the forum for this...But I'm going to say it anyway...The fear of climate change that the gullible masses ( The ones who just smart enough to do what they're told without Question or hesitation...But dumb enough to think by doing so makes them smarter than everyone else) are the ones buying into it...The "climate crisis" is merely the vehicle being used to gain control of every facet of our daily lives from cradle to grave...

Unity = Submit and Obey..or we will crush you...

To quote Dan Bongino! There are the stupid/stupid & the smart/stupid! The first one knows he’s stupid, the second one thinks he’s smart, but he’s really stupid! They are the dangerous ones! And we know where most of them are!

Also you are right from the perspective that if they are effective at moving everything to electric, than they can control everything you own! How much energy you use! And once they moved everyone away from natural gas, gasoline   Oil and the like it’s over! All the infrastructure would be gone! We would all be screwed!

Edited February 9, 2021 by Last Indian

[JUSTA6]

Why did Trump get us out of the Paris Climate accords?   OBUMMER/Obiden thought it was a good idea for us to pay for the majority of this crap as the rest of the world watched!!  We already have the highest standards of any country on the planet, Water quality, air quality,  controls on manufacturing.  Look at China, the MOST polluted place on the entire Planet with NO reason (Paris Climate N rest of the earth be damned.)  to do anything about it.  There is an island of plastic and garbage floating in the Pacific mainly from CHINA.  They literally make us all sick.  What has the Paris climate done about it????  Nothing?  Oh yea, they were a lil short on funding as nobody stepped up to the plate.  This is NOT the place to get political, I know.  But this does directly affect all of us with the same Love of our rides, be they Pontiac, Bikes, snowmobiles, boats or anything else with an engine.   

[Last Indian]

4 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Why did Trump get us out of the Paris Climate accords?   OBUMMER/Obiden thought it was a good idea for us to pay for the majority of this crap as the rest of the world watched!!  We already have the highest standards of any country on the planet, Water quality, air quality,  controls on manufacturing.  Look at China, the MOST polluted place on the entire Planet with NO reason (Paris Climate N rest of the earth be damned.)  to do anything about it.  There is an island of plastic and garbage floating in the Pacific mainly from CHINA.  They literally make us all sick.  What has the Paris climate done about it????  Nothing?  Oh yea, they were a lil short on funding as nobody stepped up to the plate.  This is NOT the place to get political, I know.  But this does directly affect all of us with the same Love of our rides, be they Pontiac, Bikes, snowmobiles, boats or anything else with an engine.   

Buddy I hear ya! I suppose it’s not the place, but the fact is these action affect everybody at every level in every way!! 
When they started all their emissions crap in the late “60”s I didn’t like it! But I said if it made the air cleaner, produced less pollutants, I could deal with it! Then they kept adding and adding, but you know they figured out how to make it work, and work pretty darn good! 
Yet this truly is a whole different animal! Number one! You literally can not produce enough electric for wind, solar or hydro! Even if you combined them all! You can look it up if you doubt it! All of the green energy in this county right now is 11%! Of the 11%, 43%, of that 11% is still a form of combustible, AKA burn, material! Solar is 9% of that 11%! That’s .99%!! Biden says he’s going to double that by 2045! Seriously! Hold me back! 
Understand, there is only one purpose here! Destroy crude oil infrastructures and equipment related to crude! Once that is done big energy can write their own ticket and prices! Once that’s done they will resurrect crude for their use to generate electricity, but they will control the price of crude at that point! Because no one else will be using it!

And there’s the rub!

Edited February 10, 2021 by Last Indian

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one that sees the Big picture... Have lots more to say about it..But that's for another forum another time...🇺🇸

Edited February 10, 2021 by TWO LANE BLACK TOP

[64 kiwi boni]

2 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one that sees the Big picture... Have lots more to say about it..But that's for another forum another time...🇺🇸

i am with you two lane... all this pisses me off big time, but guess what, life too short to worry about it. 

yes we should care.

yes we should do certain things

BUT. within reason.

We are having the same bs issues down here on this little Island we live on, the Paris agreement  thing is what has been a hot topic, but guess what... public opinion here will tell our government what they are allowed to do. and i expect it will in your country too.

Its called common sense 

And in no way will our classic cars be pushed off the road. i know that for a fact 

The collector car fraction is so big now, its up there with owning property, and no government is going under minded property values in this economic environment,and in turn attack classic cars who are not a main environmental issue ( we justA dont drive them every day).

The interesting thing i have herd is that since covid, people are not putting there money in banks in case they fold, and locking there money into classic cars and warehousing them as assists! 

 And this is reflecting in the prices of classic/ muscle cars that are for sale..... are you guys seeing any thing like this ????

Edited February 10, 2021 by 64 kiwi boni

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

Unfortunately the political climate here has drastically changed as of late...And has completely divided us more than anytime in our history...It's getting worse everyday...Everyday average ordinary people are being branded as Domestic terrorists...For simply holding traditional American values...What's really going to set it off is When they start squelching our second amendment rights (Firearms) Which I fear will set off a rebellion the likes we haven't seen since the American Civil war of the 1860s...This the one time that I truly hope that I am wrong...

By the way..Is it true that when water goes down the drains in the southern hemisphere it rotates the opposite direction...???

I traveled to Perth Australia once in the early 80s while I was in the Navy and was to busy doing Sailor things (Chasing girls and other associated stuff)and didn't really pay any attention to that.... 🍻🍻

[TWO LANE BLACK TOP]

The thing that have noticed is the lack of cash..Most of the retail outlets at least in my area do not have enough cash available to make change for even a $20.00 bill... So you have to pay for everything with a debit/credit card..As far as classic car prices...Pretty much everyone watches the cars go for high dollar on the Barret-Jackson auctions in TV and then they think that the rusty piece of junk with half the parts missing that has been sitting out in the woods behind their house for the last 25 years is worth a mint and seem to think they can retire off of What they unrealistically think they can sell it for...

1 hour ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

i am with you two lane... all this pisses me off big time, but guess what, life too short to worry about it. 

yes we should care.

yes we should do certain things

BUT. within reason.

We are having the same bs issues down here on this little Island we live on, the Paris agreement  thing is what has been a hot topic, but guess what... public opinion here will tell our government what they are allowed to do. and i expect it will in your country too.

Its called common sense 

And in no way will our classic cars be pushed off the road. i know that for a fact 

The collector car fraction is so big now, its up there with owning property, and no government is going under minded property values in this economic environment,and in turn attack classic cars who are not a main environmental issue ( we justA dont drive them every day).

The interesting thing i have herd is that since covid, people are not putting there money in banks in case they fold, and locking there money into classic cars and warehousing them as assists! 

 And this is reflecting in the prices of classic/ muscle cars that are for sale..... are you guys seeing any thing like this ????

 

[64 kiwi boni]

2 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

Unfortunately the political climate here has drastically changed as of late...And has completely divided us more than anytime in our history...It's getting worse everyday...Everyday average ordinary people are being branded as Domestic terrorists...For simply holding traditional American values...What's really going to set it off is When they start squelching our second amendment rights (Firearms) Which I fear will set off a rebellion the likes we haven't seen since the American Civil war of the 1860s...This the one time that I truly hope that I am wrong...

By the way..Is it true that when water goes down the drains in the southern hemisphere it rotates the opposite direction...???

I traveled to Perth Australia once in the early 80s while I was in the Navy and was to busy doing Sailor things (Chasing girls and other associated stuff)and didn't really pay any attention to that.... 🍻🍻

haha, two lane the water goes down the drain the same way it does in the northern hemisphere!! 

you crack me up

Back in the 80s the water very well have gone down the other way, but i too was too busy chasing girls to give a rats arse 

little head ruling the big head so to speak

[64 kiwi boni]

1 hour ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

he thing that have noticed is the lack of cash

Ah now you have notice what the big picture is two lane... our government is al ready on to it, and yours will click on to it one day .... cash isnt being taxed....

our government has  spotted that we joe blogs are using cash to buy shit... on line, etc and not paying tax on the transactions... 

example... i hit buy now on a private deal... contact the seller and stick the coin in his account,,, job done you would say

up until August last year i could walk into a bank and stick the cash into the sellers account.... not any more, the nz government shut that down.

can you do that ??

[JUSTA6]

10 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

i am with you two lane... all this pisses me off big time, but guess what, life too short to worry about it. 

yes we should care.

yes we should do certain things

BUT. within reason.

We are having the same bs issues down here on this little Island we live on, the Paris agreement  thing is what has been a hot topic, but guess what... public opinion here will tell our government what they are allowed to do. and i expect it will in your country too.

Its called common sense 

And in no way will our classic cars be pushed off the road. i know that for a fact 

The collector car fraction is so big now, its up there with owning property, and no government is going under minded property values in this economic environment,and in turn attack classic cars who are not a main environmental issue ( we justA dont drive them every day).

The interesting thing i have herd is that since covid, people are not putting there money in banks in case they fold, and locking there money into classic cars and warehousing them as assists! 

 And this is reflecting in the prices of classic/ muscle cars that are for sale..... are you guys seeing any thing like this ????

The old cars can't be controlled.  Todays cars can be completely controlled.  Wow, gotta have onstar!!!!  Justa nother way to control you!  Justa like Facebook and the rest of social media people flock to like bugs to a lightbulb.  Locked your keys in...Justa minute, click, your doors are unlocked.  Air bag deployed, we know exactly where you are at, sending help, how cool, I feel soooo much safer.  Wait a minute, you know where I'm at, you can control every function of this car including shutting off the engine.  Oh we can't legally do all that stuff, NO WORRIES.  We are seeing first hand what is legal,  when it is, and what they can do.  Now with all this self parking....(coolest thing ever!)  They have proven this car can be remotely hacked and controlled, overriding physical control. Some where here we have had this discussion before.  It's buried in the forum.  A non computer car might Justa be the best thing you could own.  As long as we can get fuel for it.  I know lets make fuel so corrosive it destroys the old cars.  Take out their valves, melt their metal lines, carbs, ect, if you let them sit for any period of time.  Today's Gas won't even fire after a couple years of sitting and destroying your car.  RoadKill has fired cars in junkyards with 40 year old gas in em.  Not the best case senerio but you know what I mean.

[Frosty]

[JUSTA6]

OK...These words can no longer be used in the auto industry:

Male connectors      Female connectors      Dikes     ForMAN   MANager   HOse    Circlip   Stud     Bung hole     HElicoil    Nuts     Nipples     Jugs     Shaft     Jack    Chuck    Rear end

undercarriage       Skirt      and from now on Tranny Fluid will now be known as Gender Neutral Shift Juice.   

THANKZ BIDEN         

[JUSTA6]

[Fitzy]

On 5/7/2021 at 12:59 AM, Untalented_Amateur said:

Good morning all, 

Well maybe a mid-life crisis scenario, but last night I bought a 62 Bonneville 4dr, with the plan restore it as best I can. Completely out of my comfort zone, love cars, but no nothing about anything, hence the will need lot's of help. Seems a pretty solid car (had the wife's cousin check it out), some minor rust, but all there including, engine and drive train, body panels, interior, trim.

Have decided to nickname it lucky, lucky to find it, lucky to get it on the not so great trailer, and lucky to make it back to the storage location without it falling off said trailer. 

Obviously will know more once it is down to bare metal, but the trunk lid and hood may need replacing, can't find much on replacements for the Bonneville, but the 62 Catalina looks very similar to my untrained eye, am I correct?

Many thanks in advance!! 

 

On 2/10/2021 at 3:48 PM, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

Unfortunately the political climate here has drastically changed as of late...And has completely divided us more than anytime in our history...It's getting worse everyday...Everyday average ordinary people are being branded as Domestic terrorists...For simply holding traditional American values...What's really going to set it off is When they start squelching our second amendment rights (Firearms) Which I fear will set off a rebellion the likes we haven't seen since the American Civil war of the 1860s...This the one time that I truly hope that I am wrong...

By the way..Is it true that when water goes down the drains in the southern hemisphere it rotates the opposite direction...???

I traveled to Perth Australia once in the early 80s while I was in the Navy and was to busy doing Sailor things (Chasing girls and other associated stuff)and didn't really pay any attention to that.... 🍻🍻

Actually, the water DOES spin the opposite way - it's known as the Coriolis effect. In fact, the closer you are to the equator, the 'straighter' the flow of water down the drain. It's to do with the planet's rotation. I don't know what's going on at Kiwi's place: maybe he installed a 'Simpson's style' device that makes it spin the other way.

[Wrongway]

Damn Justa! That kinda sums it up. Amen brother!

[JUSTA6]

A year ago this meant something.....Not so much now.