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This is a story that I believe most all of us have through. AboutĀ  a year ago I took my 68. Bird to install a 4 wheel disk using the parts I had already bought. That was 700.00 dollars for labor. He still has theĀ  bird which I have added several other upgradesĀ  now to the car and we are past 13000 so far what canĀ  I say thanks all

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Okay, it seems there are a bunch of us who all grew up about the same time. So, who remembers The James Gang? As a kid, as part of my 'childhood,' I would plant myself next to one of my father's quadrophonic floor speakers and make cars out of Lego whilst listening to Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes, Santana and The James Gang whilst the old man would enjoy a joint. I recently rediscovered The James Gang and downloaded the Yer Album and JG Rides Again. Truly great stuff. Joe Walsh was a master of the heavy guitar riff.

The car? It's still sitting there.

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23 hours ago, Grapeape said:

This is a story that I believe most all of us have through. AboutĀ  a year ago I took my 68. Bird to install a 4 wheel disk using the parts I had already bought. That was 700.00 dollars for labor. He still has theĀ  bird which I have added several other upgradesĀ  now to the car and we are past 13000 so far what canĀ  I say thanks all

Hi Mike, I'm hearin' ya. Prices for everything have skyrocketed and playing with old cars is now akin to buying paintings from the old masters. Lotsa cash involved and most of what you pay for is hidden from sight. Spent lotsa moola on new suspension & steering? Unless you crawl under the car, you'd never know! We all know that unless you've had the car forever and paid almost nothing for it initially, you're not going to make any money. Let's be honest - it's throwing money into a black hole. The way around this is to quantify those dollars as 'pleasure.' Yeah, I know. I also struggle with the concept of setting fire to money and getting apparent pleasure from it. Lots of peeps have an addiction - gambling, alcohol, drugs, whatever. If like me your addiction is an old car, you're doing fine in comparison to what you COULD be addicted to. And anyway, once you're tooling around in that nice Firebird, it'll be worth it. Kids these days will be raised on fuel economy and greenness instead of horsepower. We got lucky.

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Yea, the James Gang.Ā  Joe Walsh the guitarist was in that band.

Rick

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Well look who's back. I have been fiddling with the wiring on the GP and despite my flowery rose tinted visions of neat perfect wiring under the dash...it's still messy, but better and slightly neater. I sent the Frosty Tach & my fuel gauge to a specialist (a real one this time) and they were returned with both apparently working. I haven't tested anything yet but the fuel gauge was taken apart and recalibrated and the tach got new modern guts, so I'll be sure to let you know. Pulling the interior apart gave me a chance to right a few wrongs and everything is snugly back together except for the driver's seat as I'm still fiddling with the headlights & wipers.Ā 

The headlights were NOT playing the game. I tested the power to each of the 4 and 12.4V to all and all the earths are clean and in good shape. Only one worked. I took it out and tried it amongst all outlets and it worked. For some reason, 3 of the sealed beams decided to go at the same time. You are suspecting a voltage spike like I did? No evidence of that whatsoever. It seems that the seal on sealed beams will eventually fail. The lower lights seem to be the 60 year old originals, so I ordered 4 new ones thru Rockauto for less than the price of ONE Australian one.

The wipers....after days of experimentation and blowing fuses I have ascertained that there's no juice getting to the motor. The switch simply completes the ground and makes them work. I Frankensteined a wiring setup that fed the battery directly into the wiper motor and success! I will supply the motor with a switched wire when I next get time.

I fitted new dual duty LEDs as my front park/indicators. They are a bright white when on park and flash amber when indicating. I tried to fit LED stop/tail indicators WITH a new LED flasher can but the car didn't like it, so back to incandescent rear lights.

Next time I'm home, I'm gonna finish the wiring, bolt the seat back in and fire her up. If the tach works, I shall post footage. I know, it's exciting.

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Hey Fitzy,

Ā  Ā I don't envy your wiring woes.Ā  I am still waiting on a new engine harness to solve a lack of power problem inside the passenger compartment.Ā  There is a fellow on You Tube called "Craft Customs" that explains the wiper and pump motor in fine details with diagrams and testing procedures.Ā 

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RickĀ 

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Hi Rick, thanks for the vids. Because the wipers & washers were working fine before I touched anything, I knew it was a simple wiring issue. The 1965 factory wiper washer setup is enormously complicated and I had already bypassed the ancient washer setup with an electric motor pump just like all modern cars. Somehow I had lost the 12V feed to the wiper motor. I found time today to run a fresh wire from the fuse panel to the wiper motor and they now work again as they should. If anyone's interested, it's the yellow & black wire that plugs into the centre of the 3 terminal plug that plugs into the motor that is the 12V feed. The only minor remaining issue is that the factory wiring plug refuses to sit snugly on the switch's spade terminals. The switch is a replacement and although functions as the original, the connection points are slightly different. There is a cutout in the moulded plug that is supposed to fit one way on the switch, but it's all arse about. Tomorrow I will splice some spades into the factory wires and discard the moulded plug altogether. Then the driver's seat can go back in and I can start 'er up. Whew!

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