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Got to the beach and spent the last couple of days building a fence to stop the air B and B rental next door Tennant’s from using our lawns as there car park and dirt bike track ! 

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    Thanks Ringo! It beats an apartment if you don’t like that kind of environment, and I don’t! two different views on the patio.

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    I mowed and trimmed my yard for the first time this year....Depending on the weather...That will be a weekly chore from now until October..Doesn't look like there will be any racing at our local venue

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And got a chance to get some tua tua 

 

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The trick with these guys is to leave them over night in sea water and break up a weetbix over them and they will spit out the sand and eat the flakes 

then drop them into boiling water just long enough to open them and straight into cold water 

then in the fridge in Malt vinegar 😜

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Hay fp family, any one had the covid-19 vaccine jab yet? i would be interested if you have, they are talking about us middle of the road joe blogs people getting ours mid year down here in nz. 

i think we are in for some very interesting times once we all have be jabbed! i can see a whole bunch of people wanting to travel asap! and i am in that que too! been way too long since my last Budweiser! and new york  $2 triple king sized slice of pizza ! 

And thanks too you guys i have some new locations i want to visit and add to my bucket list :dancingpontiac:

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Good morning Kiwi,

Going to be a fine day for racing...So will be headed to the track here in a couple of hours ( Caraway speedway..1/2 mile banked oval ) will be racing a NASCAR modified for the first time since since the beginning of last summer...The car has been pretty much ready to go since last year...This track is one that we normally don't race at on a regular basis....The car is set up to normally race at Bowman Gray Stadium (Flat 1/4 mile around a football field) So will have to change the front end settings and will be running a 6:92 gear in the rear end...And will probably play with the Jets in the carburetor to take advantage of the cooler air...Temps were in the high 90s last time out...Temps will only be in the low 60s today so we might be able to gain a couple of extra horses because of the cooler denser air...We have won at this track a couple of times before so we're hoping for a good showing today....

Have not taken and I'm not going to take the vaccine...Have also never worn a mask and I refuse to do so...Although I've had a couple of indoctrinated Nosey do gooders Who don't mind their own business attempt to confront me about it a couple of times over the last year....But that's another story for another time...Here in my locality people generally Don't really care about or obey any decrees the "Woke Cancel Culture"assholes or the Government (one in the same) tries to force upon us..... 

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7 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Hay fp family, any one had the covid-19 vaccine jab yet? i would be interested if you have, they are talking about us middle of the road joe blogs people getting ours mid year down here in nz. 

i think we are in for some very interesting times once we all have be jabbed! i can see a whole bunch of people wanting to travel asap! and i am in that que too! been way too long since my last Budweiser! and new york  $2 triple king sized slice of pizza ! 

And thanks too you guys i have some new locations i want to visit and add to my bucket list :dancingpontiac:

My wife got her 1st shot last week.  Next week us 18-64 division can get in line. 

9 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Hay fp family, any one had the covid-19 vaccine jab yet? i would be interested if you have, they are talking about us middle of the road joe blogs people getting ours mid year down here in nz. 

i think we are in for some very interesting times once we all have be jabbed! i can see a whole bunch of people wanting to travel asap! and i am in that que too! been way too long since my last Budweiser! and new york  $2 triple king sized slice of pizza ! 

And thanks too you guys i have some new locations i want to visit and add to my bucket list :dancingpontiac:

Just for your info, MANY people I know are NOT getting the Jab in the Arm as you say!  LOL!  Not for me.  No Guinea Pig here. Just yesterday, heard of someone who got their 2nd Jab, and died a day Later.

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6 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

Going to be a fine day for racing...So will be headed to the track here in a couple of hours ( Caraway speedway..1/2 mile banked oval ) will be racing a NASCAR modified for the first time since since the beginning of last summer...The car has been pretty much ready to go since last year...This track is one that we normally don't race at on a regular basis....The car is set up to normally race at Bowman Gray Stadium (Flat 1/4 mile around a football field) So will have to change the front end settings and will be running a 6:92 gear in the rear end...And will probably play with the Jets in the carburetor to take advantage of the cooler air...Temps were in the high 90s last time out...Temps will only be in the low 60s today so we might be able to gain a couple of extra horses because of the cooler denser air...We have won at this track a couple of times before so we're hoping for a good showing today....

Wow Two lane, can you post some pictures !!!:driving:

6 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

Have not taken and I'm not going to take the vaccine...Have also never worn a mask and I refuse to do so...Although I've had a couple of indoctrinated Nosey do gooders Who don't mind their own business attempt to confront me about it a couple of times over the last year....But that's another story for another time...Here in my locality people generally Don't really care about or obey any decrees the "Woke Cancel Culture"assholes or the Government (one in the same) tries to force upon us..... 

Hay, fair call and i know a lot of people who feel the same. as a plumber i am overly protective of my health and i do deal with some of the nastiest shit there is out there! especially when i work on the plumbing for the local hospital ! 

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13 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Hay fp family, any one had the covid-19 vaccine jab yet? i would be interested if you have, they are talking about us middle of the road joe blogs people getting ours mid year down here in nz. 

i think we are in for some very interesting times once we all have be jabbed! i can see a whole bunch of people wanting to travel asap! and i am in that que too! been way too long since my last Budweiser! and new york  $2 triple king sized slice of pizza ! 

And thanks too you guys i have some new locations i want to visit and add to my bucket list :dancingpontiac:

My dad has done both doses of the moderna and fine. My mom gets her first Wednesday. 
 

I’m under 60 and even with my health issues, no idea when I’ll be able to get one but definitely will

On 12/28/2020 at 3:09 PM, 64 kiwi boni said:

Got to the beach and spent the last couple of days building a fence to stop the air B and B rental next door Tennant’s from using our lawns as there car park and dirt bike track ! 

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Didn't have a very good day...Quaified/started  5th..Got spun out on the second lap by Bobby Labonte... But after a last lap crash  wound up finishing 8th out of 27 cars...The 22 car is us..

7 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Wow Two lane, can you post some pictures !!!:driving:

Hay, fair call and i know a lot of people who feel the same. as a plumber i am overly protective of my health and i do deal with some of the nastiest shit there is out there! especially when i work on the plumbing for the local hospital ! 

 

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Thats Bobby labonte on the hook after he crashed out on the last lap....

Have some more pics and some in car video...Will post in the next day or so...after I sort through it...Been a long day and have to work early tomorrow....

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Way cool mate, look forward to some more pictures, tell us about the drive train your running !:driving:

Two Lane - I am curious - what does it cost to build and then campaign a competitive NASCAR modified?

Kudos to you for getting out there and sharing it with us BTW. Thanks bud!

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Well at the last Indian work shop it’s been breechcloth to the wall making up some new stuff! In between the honey dew encyclopedia and outdoor work! Come on COVID I need a rest!😷

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4 hours ago, Last Indian said:

Well at the last Indian work shop it’s been breechcloth to the wall making up some new stuff! In between the honey dew encyclopedia and outdoor work! Come on COVID I need a rest!😷

What? No grandkids to nursemaid too? Dude you live the life of Riley!!! You are my hero! :bowdown:

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22 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Way cool mate, look forward to some more pictures, tell us about the drive train your running !:driving:

The car is a copy of a Troyer Engineering Chassis..That was built from scratch by me and a couple other people with a few differences from an actual Troyer about 3 years ago in a garage behind one of my lifelong friends dads house...The engine is a 358 C.I.D Chevy...4.135 bore..3.30 stroke with a 6.0 rods

Starting with a Dart Little "M" Block.. Standard deck height 9.020 With a 4.135 bore..The final bore and hone was done using two torque plates (one on each cylinder bank) The cam tunnel has been line bored to accept roller bearings instead of regular cam bearings..The lifter bores were bored to a larger size and bronze bushings were installed..(The bushings are self lubricating and create less friction than the standard Cast iron that the block is made of) internally the block has been deburred and any excess flashing left over from the casting process and all the sharp edges rounded to help eliminate any potential stress points (all done by hand with a die grinder)...It was then shot peened...Again to help relieve any stress points...Then Splayed billet maincaps are installed using ARP studs and bolts and then line bored to insure that they are running perfectly square with the centerline of the block and the Main bearing journals are all exactly the same size...It is thoroughly cleaned after that..Then Brass Freeze plugs are installed...And screens Are installed over the oil drain backs in the lifter gallery to catch any small pieces before they get into the rest of the oil passages should there be a failure in the valve trane...The Crankshaft is a lightweight gun drilled forged steel Lunati...3.30 stroke with the oil holes chamfered and the journals radiused then Cryogenically treated (very expensive$$$$) It is meticulously balanced....The 6.00 Carillo forged H beam connecting rods with cracked caps were individually weighed on both ends all weigh within a 1/4 gram of each other...With ARP rod bolts the Wrist pins (GM performance parts) Are full floating...the pistons are forged high compression pop top Mahle with valve reliefs cut into the top for valve clearance with Low tension compression rings..With the end gaps set at .019...The Comp Cams solid roller Camshaft is custom ground to our specs...260 duration @ .50 with a 770 lift with a 109 Degree lobe separation angle (LSA) with a 4..7 firing order swap.. installed straight up...With a Jessel belt drive timing set... The solid roller lifters and ties are Comp cams...with matching double springs and 10 degree titanium retainers....The Cylinder heads are GM Performance parts 18 degree....Custom ported by hand and tested on a flow bench to insure the same volume and velocity of air is consistent through all the intake and exhaust ports...The exhaust ports flow 75 % of the volume of intake ports...(which is ideal for making really good power) The valves are titanium and have a five angle grind... The valve seats and guides are also bronze.. The Valve springs have an open seat pressure of around 750 lbs. And use 3/8ths diameter push rods to prevent flexing at high RPMs along with the heavy valve spring seat pressures keeps the tappets from catapulting and loosing contact with the cam lobes during High RPM operation...The rocker arms are a Jessel offset shaft setup... with a MSD ignition and a dual point distributer...And 5 stage dry sump oiling system.. The intake manifold is a "Specially prepped" Edlebrock Air gap Victor Junior..Topped with a NASCAR Mandated 390 "special" (has gotten past the pre race inspections so far) but we still have our fingers crossed ....Carburetor ....Power is transferred through self contained 3 disc clutch unit mounted to a Flexplate instead of a flywheel...to a Hightower 2 speed (fast and faster) transmission with gun drilled main shaft... then on to a Franklin quick change rear end...Rolls on 15 inch diameter wheels that are also15 inches wide....Wilwood brakes are used for stopping power.. The car just barely makes minimum weight limit of 2610 pounds with the driver and a full load of 115 octane race gas...The engine dynoed at 673 horsepower...well over 500 foot lbs. Of torque @ 8700 RPMs...

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Two Lane - I am curious - what does it cost to build and then campaign a competitive NASCAR modified?

Kudos to you for getting out there and sharing it with us BTW. Thanks bud!

The sky is the limit.... Around $100,000 or more provided you already have a well stocked shop with the right tools and a tow vehicle and trailer.....And you don't have a hard crash that bends the car real bad...or blow an engine...that amount will give you a real good start if you spend it in the right places...Generally costs around 6 to $700.00 a week to run at the stadium (Bowman Gray) every Saturday night...Tires...gas pit passes...Etc.. If you crash hard or blow up the price goes up from there...

But if you don't get new tires every week and buy a couple drums of gas at the beginning of the season... You can do do it for half that price if you have a good smart driver who doesn't overly beat on the car and good luck and a sound strategy you can be competitive and might even knock off a win...The majority of the regular modified guys who only run the Stadium fall into the latter category....

Running all the races on the Whelan Modified tour is a whole different $$$$$ level.... 

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8 hours ago, Last Indian said:

Well at the last Indian work shop it’s been breechcloth to the wall making up some new stuff! In between the honey dew encyclopedia and outdoor work! Come on COVID I need a rest!😷

i dont think you want to get covid Last Indian! it doesn't sound pretty mate!.what ever your doing, keep it up, clearly your playing it safe and i for one are doing the same, i dont want long term issues, ageing is bad engough !:cheers:

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5 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

The Crankshaft is a lightweight gun drilled forged steel Lunati...3.30 stroke with the oil holes chamfered and the journals radiused then Cryogenically treated (very expensive$$$$

Your going to have to explain what this cryogenic treatment is ???

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4 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

The sky is the limit.... Around $100,000 or more provided you already have a well stocked shop with the right tools and a tow vehicle and trailer.....And you don't have a hard crash that bends the car real bad...or blow an engine...that amount will give you a real good start if you spend it in the right places...Generally costs around 6 to $700.00 a week to run at the stadium (Bowman Gray) every Saturday night...Tires...gas pit passes...Etc.. If you crash hard or blow up the price goes up from there...

But if you don't get new tires every week and buy a couple drums of gas at the beginning of the season... You can do do it for half that price if you have a good smart driver who doesn't overly beat on the car and good luck and a sound strategy you can be competitive and might even knock off a win...The majority of the regular modified guys who only run the Stadium fall into the latter category....

Running all the races on the Whelan Modified tour is a whole different $$$$$ level.... 

And two lane, you drive or own/ or both ??

11 hours ago, TWO LANE BLACK TOP said:

The sky is the limit.... Around $100,000 or more provided you already have a well stocked shop with the right tools and a tow vehicle and trailer.....And you don't have a hard crash that bends the car real bad...or blow an engine...that amount will give you a real good start if you spend it in the right places...Generally costs around 6 to $700.00 a week to run at the stadium (Bowman Gray) every Saturday night...Tires...gas pit passes...Etc.. If you crash hard or blow up the price goes up from there...

But if you don't get new tires every week and buy a couple drums of gas at the beginning of the season... You can do do it for half that price if you have a good smart driver who doesn't overly beat on the car and good luck and a sound strategy you can be competitive and might even knock off a win...The majority of the regular modified guys who only run the Stadium fall into the latter category....

Running all the races on the Whelan Modified tour is a whole different $$$$$ level.... 

SO NASCAR modified is still not within reach of the average Joe to go racing. It's clearly cheaper than Xfinity or Cup level but it is not Saturday night at your local speedway either. You have to a certain level of cash just to enter and compete at the basic level.  Kudos to you and friends that get out there and put the car on the track though.

On 3/15/2021 at 10:23 PM, Frosty said:

What? No grandkids to nursemaid too? Dude you live the life of Riley!!! You are my hero! :bowdown:

More like Dobie Gillis!

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On 3/16/2021 at 4:23 AM, 64 kiwi boni said:

Your going to have to explain what this cryogenic treatment is ???

Cryogenic hardening is a form of surface hardening! Basically by taking a particular alloy of steel down to -185c causes a change in the crystal structure of the steel increasing the martensite at the surface which increases the toughness and hardness of the material! This is just a tiny bite like cyanide hardening! But this process doesn’t require surface finishing after the fact! 

On 3/16/2021 at 10:47 AM, Frosty said:

SO NASCAR modified is still not within reach of the average Joe to go racing. It's clearly cheaper than Xfinity or Cup level but it is not Saturday night at your local speedway either. You have to a certain level of cash just to enter and compete at the basic level.  Kudos to you and friends that get out there and put the car on the track though.

Alot of tracks around here have a Modified class that run a spec..602 Crate engine that is actually affordable....The chassis is basically the same as what we run...The 602 engine is an Iron headed 350 CID..4.00 bore...3.48 Stroke that is rated at 350 horsepower...390 foot lbs. Of torque with 9.1.1 compression...Runs on 93 octane gas and costs right at $5000.00 and includes everything but the Carburetor...Starter..Spark plugs..ETC..It also comes an 8 quart side kickout oil pan...It is sealed at the factory to prevent any creative internal engineering..(although it can be done and camouflaged to pass tech) With a pretty significant  gain in power...

Don't ask me how I know that..😈😈

They Also have to run skinny wheels and a spec treaded type race tires...They are also allowed to run a 750 CFM carburetor instead of the mandated 390 CFM that we run..Except for the narrower wheels....They look the same as what we run...You can buy a turn key car ready to race for less than the cost of one of our engines...It is a very competitive division with good car counts...

Bowman Gray Stadium (Our regular venue) is as far as I know the the only track south of the Mason Dixon line that Runs The true NASCAR Mods...as the featured division every Saturday night...The other tracks up north that feature them on a weekly basis are Thompson speedway 5/8ths mile oval in Connecticut..Riverhead New York...Stafford Springs Connecticut and a few others that I can't think of at the moment...The NASCAR Whelen Modified tour originates from that part of the country..The NASCAR Smart Tour (Southern Modified Auto Racing Teams) Is what we race in..This year I think there are 11 tour races on the schedule this year..at different tracks in Virginia..SouthCarolina..North Carolina..Georgia...Sometimes Bristol Tennessee...Although we rarely run any of the tour races...As We generally focus our energy and Resources at the Stadium..We do always try to run The North South Shootout which is the only time the northern and Southern tour is a combined event that usually takes place at Martinsville or Bristol speedways in conjunction with the Cup weekends..Although the Shootout has taken place at Thompson conn. A couple of times...And at Caraway speedway in Sophia N.C...It is the only time We get to directly compete against the Yankees...

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On 3/16/2021 at 4:29 AM, 64 kiwi boni said:

And two lane, you drive or own/ or both ??

Neither...Have been involved since I was a kid..It is pretty much a Family affair although we aren't really kin to each other..I have driven in several races over the years.... Now I just mainly build (engines and chassis).. tune and prep the car...Now that I've gotten older It's pretty much just a hobby ...Although I've profited from it in the past..

I was even a reality TV Star back in 2010 on a show Called Madhouse that focused on some of the modified teams at Bowman Gray Stadium...I was in every commercial and trailer advertising the show...And was in every episode that aired..Including one that focused on Me and Salter...Had us portrayed as the mad scientist engine builders..NASCAR stepped in...and the show was cancelled before all the episodes were aired because NASCAR felt that a bunch of crazed rednecks fighting and crashing each other out every Saturday night in front of a crowd of 15000  Rowdy...Very hostile fans really didn't fit the family friendly narrative they were try to push at the time...It aired  Sunday nights on The history Channel...We even did a local Superbowl commercial that year....Was pretty cool...

 

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