27 minutes ago, Last Indian said:

The Browns?! Never fail to deliver incompetence and the same old, same old year after year no matter how much they change! 

Nothing against the poor fans but from day 1 when they acquired OBJ and Landry and were being all cocky, I am very happy they are struggling  

5 hours ago, Last Indian said:

The Browns?! Never fail to deliver incompetence and the same old, same old year after year no matter how much they change! 

Ditto the Detroit Lions.....still can't even beat the lowly Bears.

5 hours ago, Ringo64 said:

Nothing against the poor fans but from day 1 when they acquired OBJ and Landry and were being all cocky, I am very happy they are struggling  

Agreed ! It takes a whole lot more than two really good receivers to make a good football team! Unless they can throw the ball to themselves 😁! It all starts with the guy who picks the guy who picks the guys! If he suck at it, so does the line all the way to the bottom! In our case that guy has sucked since day 1 of the Browns return. Modell was a lousy Person in general, but as an owner he knew how to pick people and then let them do their job! I’ve always said when the Browns moved to Baltimore they really didn’t! They just vanished! Neither Baltimore or Cleveland are reminiscent of the old Browns!

Edited September 14, 20205 yr by Last Indian

35 minutes ago, Last Indian said:

Agreed ! It takes a whole lot more than two really good receivers to make a good football team! Unless they can throw the ball to themselves 😁! It all starts with the guy who picks the guy who picks the guys! If he suck at it, so does the line all the way to the bottom! In our case that guy has sucked since day 1 of the Browns return. Modell was a lousy Person in general, but as an owner he knew how to pick people and then let them do their job! I’ve always said when the Browns moved to Baltimore they really didn’t! They just vanished! Neither Baltimore or Cleveland are reminiscent of the old Browns!

Funny you should say that. William Clay Ford purchased the Detroit Lions on November 22, 1963. Since then, Detroit has only won a single playoff game under the Ford family's ownership. The team's last NFL championship was in 1957 (ironically beating the Browns 59-14 that year). They have moved from Briggs/Tiger Staduim (demolished now) to the Pontiac Silverdome (demolished now) to Ford FIeld in that time span as well. So changing venues is defintely not the answer, but no one plays the staduim game as well as the Ford family.

I prefer soccer.

Wasn’t expecting Nick to be broadcasting the NFL

At least the Lions will not have a perfect year this year.  The Stealers are going into hiding tho.

15 hours ago, notallthere said:

At least the Lions will not have a perfect year this year.  The Stealers are going into hiding tho.

Can’t go 0-17 if you get a tie

The Lions can still screw up the first round draft pick by winning a game or two and lose on the tie breakers.....

As an Alumni……I am the biggest University of Georgia fan on this planet

 

Luv Jawja Dawgs

College football is about playing together as a Team.

Pro ball is.  Simply about getting PAID.

 

 

NO  comparison

Being a diehard Michigan Wolverine alumni and season ticket holder for almost 40 years, even I am stunned over unranked Michigan’s 13-10 victory over #2 Ohio State. I didn’t think that was possible. OSU was a 21-point favorite. All I was praying for was no massive blow out.

The flag planting and fight at the end was classless and pointless. There is no need for that in college or pro football. Both teams need to be ashamed. Sadly Michigan started it with the flag planting. That stuff needs to be banned.

7 hours ago, Frosty said:

The flag planting and fight at the end was classless and pointless. There is no need for that in college or pro football. Both teams need to be ashamed. Sadly Michigan started it with the flag planting. That stuff needs to be banned.

Personally, just don't get the point of it. I am not one to taunt or trash talk either though. Let your play on the field talk. In this case, it already spoke volumes.

4yrs straight......Wolverines own em! Still not enough trash to warrant that display of playground antic's.  Hear that bell??  It's school time. All class from both sides dismissed.

The school bell is for the ding-a-longs who pulled that stunt and then got pepper sprayed as a result. Dumb and classless.

22 hours ago, Frosty said:

The school bell is for the ding-a-longs who pulled that stunt and then got pepper sprayed as a result. Dumb and classless.

And we thought Mich St had the market covered on that!

MSU can not plant flags on anyone's football field at the moment. So when they actually do win something big, they riot, flip cop cars over, drag out old sofas, and set the cop cars and sofas on fire instead. 

4-5 MSU players on a lone M player, taking full swings at his head with their helmets in the tunnel?  Criminal charges were filed, but somehow swept under the rug.  

They were charged with misdemeanor assault and battery charges. One was convicted and the other four took plea deals…and suspended from the team.

Since I am an Alum.  UGA Will win the National Championship....(Again).  College ball is the only true football.  It is not all about the $$$.

37 minutes ago, Alweeja said:

It is not all about the $$$.

Would have said this years ago but the NIL deals and the transfer portal really killed that.

43 minutes ago, Alweeja said:

Since I am an Alum.  UGA Will win the National Championship....(Again).  College ball is the only true football.  It is not all about the $$$.

OLD Skool.... Back when a scholarship (that sum I couldn't afford for my kids)  was to be cherished and an honor to play for your school and payment enough.  

1 hour ago, Alweeja said:

Since I am an Alum.  UGA Will win the National Championship....(Again).  College ball is the only true football.  It is not all about the $$$.

These days, I have to disagree about the money. Money has transformed college sports. It's big business. When I was a kid, college football meant.

1. Schools had x number of full and partial scholarships. Now we have NIL income because schools made egregious amounts of money on current and past players in terms of merchandise and advertising, 

2. Your team could be on TV only 2-3 times a year, including a Bowl game. Now every FBS team is on TV, on some network or cable channel. Furthermore, there are now individual conference broadcast agreements.

3. There were was only the Rose, Cotton, Sugar, Orange, Peach, Liberty, and Fiesta bowls, Everyone else stayed home regardless of their records. Now there are nearly 30+ bowl games, not including the BCS/CFP playoff games. In 1973, Michigan and Oho State were undefeated going into "The Game", The Game ended in a tie. So technically both teams were undefeated. OSU was made the Big Ten's Rose Bowl rep. Michigan stayed home on New Year's Day 1974. No alternative bowls were possible in those days.

4. In the old days, networks ABC, NBC, or CBS ruled which games were broadcast. Otherwise you had to go to the game or listen to it on the radio. Today, network and cable contracts exist and they are negotiated with the individual conferences. These are now billion dollar/multi-year contracts. TV income has certainly increased every athletic department's revenue.

5. There was hardly any movement of teams between conferences. The PAC-10, Big 10, Big 8, ACC, Big East, Mountain West, MAC, SEC were the major conferences. Now the PAC-12 has 2 teams, Big 12 has 17 teams, B1G has 18, SEC has 16, ACC has 15, Big East doesn't really exist anymore, etc. So teams are moving to where the bigger money is.

6. The expansion of bowl games from the ones I listed above are a boon to the sponsors and teams alike. The sponsor gets a business write off and publicity and the teams get paid to appear and get one more game for the season to help with recruiting and player development.

6 hours ago, Frosty said:

These days, I have to disagree about the money. Money has transformed college sports. It's big business. When I was a kid, college football meant.

1. Schools had x number of full and partial scholarships. Now we have NIL income because schools made egregious amounts of money on current and past players in terms of merchandise and advertising, 

2. Your team could be on TV only 2-3 times a year, including a Bowl game. Now every FBS team is on TV, on some network or cable channel. Furthermore, there are now individual conference broadcast agreements.

3. There were was only the Rose, Cotton, Sugar, Orange, Peach, Liberty, and Fiesta bowls, Everyone else stayed home regardless of their records. Now there are nearly 30+ bowl games, not including the BCS/CFP playoff games. In 1973, Michigan and Oho State were undefeated going into "The Game", The Game ended in a tie. So technically both teams were undefeated. OSU was made the Big Ten's Rose Bowl rep. Michigan stayed home on New Year's Day 1974. No alternative bowls were possible in those days.

4. In the old days, networks ABC, NBC, or CBS ruled which games were broadcast. Otherwise you had to go to the game or listen to it on the radio. Today, network and cable contracts exist and they are negotiated with the individual conferences. These are now billion dollar/multi-year contracts. TV income has certainly increased every athletic department's revenue.

5. There was hardly any movement of teams between conferences. The PAC-10, Big 10, Big 8, ACC, Big East, Mountain West, MAC, SEC were the major conferences. Now the PAC-12 has 2 teams, Big 12 has 17 teams, B1G has 18, SEC has 16, ACC has 15, Big East doesn't really exist anymore, etc. So teams are moving to where the bigger money is.

6. The expansion of bowl games from the ones I listed above are a boon to the sponsors and teams alike. The sponsor gets a business write off and publicity and the teams get paid to appear and get one more game for the season to help with recruiting and player development.

Very nice break-down

You have a  clear idea how it works. 

Kirby Smart,  UGA''s Head coach is the highest paid college coach now & maybe history. 10,000,000 + is Not chump change.

IMHO he is worth Every nickel.

 

GO DAWGS

After a lifetime of following our Lions and always holding out that bit of hope.  It's finally a great time to be a Lions fan!

The Lions are the first team to clinch a playoff berth already.