I delivered the block, heads, crank, flex plate, balancer, pistons & rods to the machinist today and said "I want 1000hp." Well, no not really. He'll get back to me once they've taken their measurements and had a good laugh at the inch wide cracks in the block & crank. If anyone wants to send me a message, I'll be awake at 3am.

1 hour ago, Fitzy said:

I delivered the block, heads, crank, flex plate, balancer, pistons & rods to the machinist today and said "I want 1000hp." Well, no not really. He'll get back to me once they've taken their measurements and had a good laugh at the inch wide cracks in the block & crank. If anyone wants to send me a message, I'll be awake at 3am.

is it 3 am yet fitzy...????

look at what these guys have ...

https://www.bopengineering.com/beltdrive_acc_topend4.shtml

FItzy - what sort of cam are you thinking of going with for the old girl?

Degreeing a cam (in theory) should be done to insure maximum performance, helps prevent piston-to-valve contact, and protects against assembly error. If you are going with a custom grind, degreeing would be a must. A stock and near-stock grind not so much but still a very good idea.

I suspect the best person to talk to on this subject maybe Two Lane. He has built several big blocks in the past.

 

 

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by Frosty

Thanks Frosty & Kiwi - I'd forgotten all about BOP, and yes Frosty, I found a degreeing kit from Summit for about 150 bucks. I've always wanted to learn about it and what the hey, it's not as if I have lots of other interests to pursue, like chasing girls and drinking beer. As far as cam selection goes, I'm leaning towards a 067 or 068, which is a mild factory upgrade from the workhorse 066. I filled in the Comp Cams form to see what they recommend. Importantly, it's gotta retain stock low speed torque and drivability characteristics - it's not a Firebird, it's a 2 ton land yacht.

3am came and then, thankfully, passed without incident. I'm feelin' good!

You have to show us when you dial in your cam mate 

I would certainly be interested in how it works 👍👍👍

Uh, sure. But if I screw it up and end up coated in a blizzard of metal flakes and busted valves, don't laugh too hard.

39 minutes ago, Fitzy said:

Uh, sure. But if I screw it up and end up coated in a blizzard of metal flakes and busted valves, don't laugh too hard.

Everybody knows the valves go throught the pistons 1st. Kinda like rock/ paper/ sissors.

4 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Uh, sure. But if I screw it up and end up coated in a blizzard of metal flakes and busted valves, don't laugh too hard.

mate you wont !!

yeh of little faith !!! ... i have already learned your a thinker !

you know your shit 👍... plus it will be fun!! you learn ...... we learn !!! how bad could it get ???

 

57 minutes ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

mate you wont !!

yeh of little faith !!! ... i have already learned your a thinker !

you know your shit 👍... plus it will be fun!! you learn ...... we learn !!! how bad could it get ???

Yep. See that mushroom cloud? That's the initial start up of my expensive totally overhauled engine. That small lump of charred flesh on the ground, holding a wrench? That'll be me.

6 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Yep. See that mushroom cloud? That's the initial start up of my expensive totally overhauled engine. That small lump of charred flesh on the ground, holding a wrench? That'll be me.

No that will be our appliance company if they don't show up again.  Been without a washer N drier for 3 weeks after they missed the 1st delivery.  Hauled our old working stuff outside to promptly sit out in the rain.  Already missing the 1st 3 days of vacation at the cabin and getting ready for the bow deer season.

13 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Uh, sure. But if I screw it up and end up coated in a blizzard of metal flakes and busted valves, don't laugh too hard.

No promises there. However, there will be a lot of snickering and finger pointing - justa for good measure!

7 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Yep. See that mushroom cloud? That's the initial start up of my expensive totally overhauled engine. That small lump of charred flesh on the ground, holding a wrench? That'll be me.

Dignity and respect are way over rated mate! Especially with this group of idiots! 

5 hours ago, Frosty said:

Dignity and respect are way over rated mate! Especially with this group of idiots! 

i will drink to that !!! hahaha

6 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Already missing the 1st 3 days of vacation at the cabin and getting ready for the bow deer season.

oh, takes some pictures if you get any deer JustA 👍

JustA watch out for those bears!!!

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by 64 kiwi boni

Yeah Justa......watch out for them bears!!!! 

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by Frosty

35 minutes ago, Frosty said:

Yeah Justa......watch out for them bears!!!! 

Bears are all I have to worry about.  Deer season doesn't start til Oct 1st.   Have an hour left on the window to deliver the damn washer N dryer.  Wife is bouncin off the walls.  Headin out to mow the lawn.

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by JUSTA6

This is SO funny. It resembles my own method of mechanical diagnosis to a tee. Yes, I will post pics of my engine exploding, but what I'm really wanting to do is post a soundclip of how it sounds. I found a clip somewhere of someone demonstrating how his Pontiac idles with such and such a cam. It was a great little 10 second clip. I am now considering the same cam.

Here's the link to that little soundclip on a GTO forum:

https://www.gtoforum.com/threads/067-or-068-cam-on-stock-gto.131485/post-868245

Today, I sighed heavily and dragged my headers outa the shed and took all that lurid blue paint off. I'm going to clear coat them and that's good enough. I left the slightest tinge of blue on them, so they might end up with a weird looking sort of factory hue.

Old MacDonald had a farm. I know this, because I found most of it inside my distributor. I keep banging on about my car being stored in what I assume was a barn, because I keep finding grass seeds everywhere. That particular seed in the pic, along with other detritus was wedged under the points plate! You tell me how the f@#k that got in there??? Dizzy looks to be in good nick - no excessive play anywhere, weights move freely and vac advance unit diaphragm is intact. The points were toast, though. Once cleaned up, I'll fit my new points, condenser, rotor, cap & leads.

I might rebuild the Carter tomorrow. Unlike Kiwi, I'm going to remove Satan's horsepower reducing device and will shred tyres whilst idling.

 

Edited September 10, 20214 yr by Fitzy
Double up on photo

I suspect barn critters like mice, rats, chipmunks, and other little wee beasties (as my Scottish aunt would call them) deposited them there over time. Bloody rude of them, don't you think? 

Whats wrong with with critters?  They get into places you wouldn't believe....AND they make great sandwich.😎

 

9 minutes ago, JUSTA6 said:

Whats wrong with with critters?  They get into places you wouldn't believe....AND they make great sandwich.😎

 

JustA, I don't know how you manage to come up with the right image every time! That one is truly horrifying. Gives new meaning to ratatouille.

Today I kept ploughing through the distributor rebuild and made a start on the Carter AFB. It's exhausting keeping track of all those little bits. The first time I inverted the top half, a needle fell out. I couldn't work out where it came from, so found an exploded diagram online which made it easy to replace, which got me thinking what life was like pre internet. I would have had to call a carby repair shop and ask nicely for info. How easy things are now, in this respect, anyway.

The thing was filthy - have a look at the float chambers: full of encrusted um, something. Anyway, it's currently pulled apart and I've liberally coated it in carby cleaner, doused the exterior with kero and filled the float chambers with thinners, so it's almost guaranteed to burst into flames once the engine fires up. I'm confident that the dizzy & carby will be done & dusted by the end of tomorrow AND will be sparkling clean inside & out.

Fitzy, have you had any dealings with pontiworld.com.au  

Dave clee ?

Edited September 12, 20214 yr by 64 kiwi boni

Yes, I have. Dave is a good bloke and to be frank, whilst some of the prices are out there, Dave will come to the party when something can't be supplied. He certainly came through for me when he supplied superior shocks for my car at the unsupplied cheaper price. Like everything else, do your research, factor in shipping and potential customs excise and see how the landed price looks. Remember, every time you engage a third party, they have to get their cut.