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Real Buick guys would also know that 4 Ventiports means an 8 cylinder engine while 3 means a 6 cylinder motor - at least back in those days. Today, not so much.

Great Shots 31pontiac. Thanks for sharing....as always !!!

...and the madness. We can definitely share our ideas and experiences.

I love the pictures of the car at the Lake Orion Assembly plant as well as the Lake Orion Assembly jacket. I assume that was the day the car was built?

Joe - Waldron's Exhaust in Centreville MI makes their VOE-2 / Driver Controlled Exhaust muffler and control kit. If you car had an original VOE, you only need to buy the mufflers. Here is their YouTube video

Dad - you are spoiling her.....again.

Sadly there is little or no demand for these motors and that is why they are still in the junkyards. In the lighter H-body and H-body special cars, this motor was fine. However, in the heavier X-body FWD they were sluggish. This may have more to do with CAFE tuning that the motor itself.

Interesting little article about the 1970 Humbler and the rare VOE option. If you have not seen the 1970 Humbler commercial before, I encourage you to watch it. The commercial link is embedded with in the article. http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/07/21/humbler-1970-pontiac-gtos-vacuum-operated-exhaust-was-ahead-its-time.html "Excessive humiliation" is not the true or whole reason the option was shelved. It was the TV commercial itself, which only ran for 30 days or less in November of 1969 before it was yanked from national and local television. GM executives who saw this commercial saw it as a blatant attempt by Pontiac encouraging illegal street racing (which they were). The young man is driving around this circular restaurant. The restaurant happened to be on Woodward Ave which was "the illegal street racing capital of the Untied States" in those days. The restaurant has since been torn down BTW. The driver opens the VOE, guns his engine as he passes by several people, Corvettes, Camaros, Chevelles, Mustangs, and 442s. He is clearly looking for a street race. This was a huge corporate marketing no-no. Plus there were several other GM cars in the ad, again marketing against GM's other divisions was another big no no too. So GM executives ordered Pontiac to remove the ad and to get rid of the VOE (a.k.a. the Tiger button) option altogether.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/cut-down-engine-week-gm-iron-duke Here is another one of those "clickbait" filler articles. This time about the Iron Duke 4-cylinder engine. I had one of these engines in my transitional 1981 Pontiac Phoenix (the Pontiac version of the Chevy Citation). I say transitional since I purchased this car as a daily driver between the wreck of my '84 Trans Am and the purchase of my '86 Trans Am. The mechanics and people who knew these motors would often refer to them as the Iron Puke because the acceleration was terrible in these cars and the car did not get out of its own shadow. A V6 was much preferred in these cars over the Iron Puke. Mind you, these "X" cars were GM's first attempt to convert to FWD, so there were a lot of bugs in the entire platform, including rust and the famous "X" brake problem. Bottom line, I'd rather have a 301 Pontiac V8 engine over this one.

Do you notice how quiet it has been with no comments from GE lately? He's up to something.....I'm sure of it.

We'd love for you to post some pictures of your G6!

Now here is an interesting piece about the 1991 Pontiac Trans Am GTA. http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/10/11/The-Best-Early-90s-Pontiac-Firebird-Was-Pretty-Horrible-7741430/ I love how auto writers who probably weren't born, let alone drove and lived through the 1980s and 1990s, write hindsight articles like this. It's my opinion that this writer has it all wrong. As an owner of a 3rd generation Trans Am, mine has a very anemic 305 Tuned Port engine with a whopping 195 HP. I will be the first to admit that the 3rd gen Firebirds, Formulas, and Trans Ams (and even Firehawks) are not the 300-600 HP monsters like you can get today. In fact, in those days, GM was working hard trying to meet ever stricter CAFE regulations. That meant most of GM's fleet was FWD. The F-body and Y-body (Corvette) were the only RWD vehicles you could buy unless you wanted a truck or a Caprice/Roadmaster/Olds wagon/Impala SS (which ended in 1996). Fuel injection was still in it's infancy. The SBC 350 was the biggest motor you could get until the Chevy Silverado SS pickup showed up with a 454. The third gens were much more capable in handling and comfort versus the 2nd gens. The radios got better with the addition of BOSE radios and speakers (versus the old Delco radios). 4-wheel disc brakes became optional or standard, depending on the model. The 1LE package came out, which vastly improved handling to (then) autocross levels. The base 350 Corvette engine in 1991 (the L98) was rated at 245-250 HP. The Mercury Marine-built LT5 motor was rated at 375, but that was for the top-of-the-line ZR-1 Corvette at the time too. So 240 HP for a 3rd-gen is very respectable compared to the Corvette - for 1991. So hinting that 240 HP and the GTA (as a whole) was bad back in 1991 is way off base, in my opinion. He's looking through his 2017 rose color glasses and comparing the GTA's performance to that of a modern performance car. They are two different cars altogether.

JUSTA - this was always a creepy display. You and I both admitted at the time too.

Joe - you trying to imitate GE and go thru tires like there is no tomorrow? Let me guess. So long as there is a smile on your face and you can afford tires, the answer is a resounding "Hell yes"!

So he’s in the lead?

Okay, it's Halloween and I know all of you have been to more than your fair share of Halloween and costume parties in your day. So tell us a funny story of one them. Mine begins while I was in college. A buddy (named Tim) came to my folks house and asked for my help to get his Halloween costume together. It was a Saturday afternoon and I had nothing better to do. First stop is the local Goodwill store. He buys a white wig, a floral pattern dress, and some ladies shoes. I said "so you are going as a little old lady?" "Nope", says Tim, "something better". Our next stop is the local hardware store. We get out, he walks to the paint department and buys a can of black spray paint. What's the paint for? "You'll see", says Tim. So we get back in Tim's car, we drive around a little while. We are kinda getting into a bad, dumpy neighborhood. Tim is looking all around like he left his lunch box around here somewhere. I am about to say something when Tim suddenly slams on the brakes. All excited, he jumps of the car and says "there, that's what we need!". Its an empty lot with a ton of trash dumped on it. He pulls over and gets out and yells at me to come help him. ""Here grab the other end of this thing and let's load it into the trunk!" Its a shopping cart. He then grabs a used tire, a bunch of paper bags, empty pop bottles and beer cans, dirty wet clothes, just trash. We load this mess into the trunk and we head back to Tim's house and unload all this crap. Tim still has not told me what he's up to. Tim takes the foral dress and lays it out on some cardboard. Next he grabs the tire and the spray paint. He coats the tread with the paint and then rolls the wet painted tire over the dress, leaving a tread pattern on the dress like this. He does this to the front and back of the dress and then hangs it up so the paint can dry. Next Tim starts putting some of the trash into the shopping cart, including the tire. He grabs a purse that was his mom's and hangs it on the shopping cart. Finally, I had say "Tim what the hell is this? What are you going to be for Halloween" "A re-tired bag lady!" I felt like I was part of a day long prank after hearing that. I wanted to kill him. However, I couldn't argue with him given the crap we just put together, and knowing Tim, he actually wore it to a costume party. Tim's elevator never went all the way to the top either, but I guess you've figured that out by now too.

In the summer of 1982, I was a summer intern working at AC Spark Division. The division set up a tour of the Pontiac Fiero plant for all of us interns prior to us departing back to our respective colleges. I particularly remember the "drill and mill" machine. The space frame of the Fiero would go into this massive cage. Automated drills, from all directions, would rise and drill holes into specific pads all over the space frame. The resulting holes would be the screw holes for the plastic bodies panels. I recall the tour guide explaining that these pads and the drill holes were based on the "uncertainty principle", which at the time, was a novel thing to be using in the manufacturing process. Essentially that meant the probably of the hole would be 99.9% somewhere within the area of the pad, but you were uncertain exactly where until the hole was drilled.

Pro is going to go nuts when he sees this very cool Firefly!

Now here is an eBay link for a complete set of 5 manuals. I know its not cheap, but if you are going to hang onto this truck, its probably a worthwhile investment. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Chevy-Silverado-Truck-GMC-Sierra-Service-Manual-Set/232520220330?hash=item362348feaa:g:oK0AAOSwDmRZ3nXs&vxp=mtr I don''t know about you, but the main branch of my local public library houses factory shop manuals for quite a few makes and models and goes back several years. You can't check them out, but you can photocopy the relevant pages, or photograph them with your smart phone. I know what you mean about doing homework, but it will likely save you money in the end rather than just throwing parts at it.

Here are some online documents I found regarding quadasteer. http://www.denalitrucks.com/documents.htm https://jbrunocalvay.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/qsteer-training.pdf

Joe, I am happy and sad for you. Glad you have a new hobby, its just one that gets more expense the faster you want to go. At some point you will have to make the decision to make the Dirty Girl a race car or keep her as is and go find a race car.

The stock bulb listings should be identified in the original owners manual. Did that come with the car?

Ok even more Ol' Smoke for you - this time as hair remover!

Hi Becky, sorry to hear that your G6 is having problems. There are a number of things that it might be. First thing I want to make you aware of is a Technical Service Bulletin that GM issued on this problem. I think this problem was specifically for the G6 GTP with the 4T65-E transmission, but I think you will get the jest. #1 Possible Cause Bulletin No.: 06-07-30-034 Date: December 20, 2006 TECHNICAL Subject: Service Engine Soon (SES) or Check Engine Light On, Harsh Shift, DTCs P0742 and P2761 Set or Just P2764 Set (Replace Automatic Transmission Wiring Harness) Models: 2006-2007 Buick Allure (Canada), LaCrosse, Lucerne, Rendezvous, Terraza 2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala, Malibu SS, Malibu Maxx SS, Monte Carlo, Uplander 2006-2007 Pontiac Grand Prix, G6 GTP, Montana SV6 2006-2007 Saturn Relay with 4T65-E Automatic Transmission (RPOs MN7, M15 or M76) Condition Some customers may comment on the Service Engine Soon (SES) or Check Engine light being illuminated. Upon investigation, the technician may find DTCs P0742 and P2764 together or just P2761 set as current or in history. Also, the customer may comment on a harsh shift. http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldata/AF...1223/126161224 The tan wire (1) of the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) Solenoid Valve harness may be incorrectly routed around a metal retaining clip causing a chafe in the wire insulation, resulting in a short to ground. The harsh shift concern is due to the default code causing high line pressure to be commanded. Correction If diagnosis indicates a grounded circuit, replace the transmission wiring harness following the published replacement procedure in SI. Be sure to route the tan wire out of the metal clip. When servicing 2007 vehicles, the metal clip for the temperature sensor connector on the new harness must be removed and discarded prior to installation. Reuse the plastic clip from the old harness. #2 Possible Cause I have also read that the transmission solenoid can get dirty or fail and cause the harsh shifting problem that you've described. Its an inexpensive part but it is in a terrible location and require lots of labor. #3 Possible Cause Low transmission fluid - highly unlikely, but you eliminate that quickly by checking the transmission fluid level with the dipstick. If its low, add transmission fluid per your owner's manual instructions. #4 Possible cause Computer problem - have the computer re-flashed. Again an unlikely scenario but it might help. #5 Possible Cause Internal transmission damage - requires a professional to assess and fix. It will be the most expensive option since the old transmission will have to come and either be replaced or repaired. Last resort option. There maybe other problems that I've not thought of, but I think this covers a lot of bases. I hope that helps you somewhat. Feel free to ask questions.

Oh, so you are saying if I leave some sprinkled on the front and back porch steps, you guys won't be able to show up on my doorsteps at 3 am Monday or Tuesday night? I say Monday since Devil's Night is such a horrible tradition in the Detroit area, it's best that I am prepared for you showing either night. I can leave the rest bottled up in the mailbox.