Last Indian

3 hours ago, mdrake said:

Not every startup but very often. Always cold startup

Sounds like one of two possibilities or both. A bad fuel filter, and or injectors that have heavy deposits. If you have never replaced the fuel filter, I would! Then get yourself several bottles of Gumout Regane, this is as good of a fuel injector/upper end induction system cleaner as there is. Add one bottle with a fill up and do that at least 4 times. If there is no improvement let us know what occurred and we’ll go from there.

1 hour ago, Jon67bonne said:

Last Indian.I was told the samething from my buddy that owns a 65 GTO. It looks amazing. It was done last year. I will be using Hammerite instead of the Line-X.

Good choice, but just be careful! It is a product that carries potential risk. The toluene and other aromatics are both breathing and skin absorption issues. Wear gloves and a mask if you work in a confined space, not outside space. At least wear gloves if ventilation isn’t an issue. And if you spray, which I don’t recommend, all the above plus protective clothing. 

Believe it or not the whole underneath of the Indian, car in the picture, was painted with a 1/2 high quality brush, 3 coats! The first coat will look a little hit and miss. The second starts to build volume and you’ll think you’re painting contact cement & the third goes on fairly nice. 

5 hours ago, mdrake said:

It has 230000 km on it now. The injectors have never been clean. It only happens after startup though for maybe 20 or so seconds and never again, seems odd. Would it not happen at all times if it was fuel related?

Every startup? Only cold startup, only hot startup?

22 minutes ago, mdrake said:

So often shortly after takeoff my 08 wave will start missing alot. The check engine light will turn on and start flashing usually. it doesn't last long and then it works normally. Iv'e have it scanned with a small scanner and nothing comes up.

Not much to go on, but first take it to a place that has a good scanner that will be able to see insitu data as well as past codes etc...

My best guess is fuel! How many miles? How often have you used fuel injector cleaner, what kind of cleaner? What kind of gas? All gas is not created equal irrelevant of what you’ve been told! Quite often clogged or deposit riddled injectors don’t show up as a code or even a problem on a scanner, but will wreak havoc on performance, up to and including miss fires!

18 hours ago, Jon67bonne said:

Basically keeping it stock. But with update radio, LineX sprayed frame. Replacing all engine and trans seals. Redo the stock interior and replacing the current bucket seats with the bench seat. Thats it basically nothing else. Im trying numbers matching for when I do shows

If I may, I would suggest you might also consider Hammerite rust cap paint. While LineX is a great paint and a good choice for a frame, I would tell you Hammerite is a better choice. The main difference between the two is dirt particulate adhesion. Hammerite is 30% glass particles. Which makes it very hard and durable, after currying and very slick. This makes it very easy to keep clean.

i would highly recommend Hammerite as I have used it for 50 years.

37 minutes ago, ProAc said:

07 GXP with about 200km on it. It's being sold as is at a small local used car dealer. 

Well only you can say if the asking price is reasonable, but 200k is a lot of abuse or love or a blend of the two, so carefully inspect the car, engine, suspension etc. also if you can inspect the passenger side, under the carpet to insure no water leakage has occurred over that 200k, carefully inspect the front subframe. The 04-09 aluminum subframes had cracking issues & the GXPs might have been more common due to hp.

That said how could you not get excited about a GXP!

14 hours ago, ofbsac said:

I like it. nice lead sled

We can do lead! Perfect car for it! Welcome!

Yes we love pics! Welcome Mike! Lots of folks here are happy to help offer assistance.

On 9/27/2019 at 5:20 AM, none95944 said:

Damn, I didn't even notice that! Like I said before, I am new to this game. That 2nd pic was one I was sent during the buying process. I was told it was a very old pic, so going from that, the pics are atleast 10 years apart, hence the different sets of tires, different color wheels, and now different rear end. Now another job has come up! And that's restoring the rear end back to original! Thank you pointing this out, you have a great eye. 👏🏻

Hey Joel, how about some interior pictures? We’d love to see how it’s laid out!

9 hours ago, none95944 said:

Thanks! 👍🏻

The exhuast is just a single-exit  There's just one muffler is placed in the middle, i believe it was custom-made. From there its just a straight pipe that routes through and exits at the back. 

Ok! Wow I am really confused! That’s a Chevy bumper, Chevy tail lights and backup lights, but a Chieftain deck lid and the rear fenders have no round Pontiac emblem on them! Yet your second picture clearly shows a Chieftain bumper and Pontiac emblems on the rear fenders! What gives?

9 hours ago, none95944 said:

Hello everyone. I am excited to be a part of the forum and share my project with you as it goes along as well as read about all of your own. My name is Joel and I manage an auto repair shop in Florida. My wife and I just recently bought our first classic car project to build together as I am turning 50 early next year. We currently live in Florida and have attended a lot of car shows and have been dying to bring one of our own. After months of searching we finally decided on this:

1952 Pontiac Chieftain 2 door sedan
Black w/ Flame job

Previous owner said it is on its 3rd engine, the stock 4.4 liter straight 8.

I am considering doing a turbo'd GM 4.8 V8 swap along with a 700R4 trans. Or maybe going with its larger 6.0 liter cousin.

The paintjob is nice but not what we initially had in mind so later on it might get changed, maybe reverting back to just plain black but I don't know, it could grow on me. What are your guys opinion? The wheels are okay but will be changed for something more vintage style with chrome hubcaps and some nice white walls.

But for now the first job I have in mind is to do a disc brake conversion and some sort of power brake upgrade immediately. During the same time period I am also going to rebuild the king pins, and replace all the control arm and leaf spring bushings and inspect the rest and do the alignment. Then sometime next year I will do a power steering conversion.

Here are a couple of pictures (girl is my wife's daughter)

Welcome! That’s a pretty nice find! Was it a Florida car? I don’t think I would change a thing! Like Frosty, said it is really kind of period correct, Old Skool! Good luck with it!

1 hour ago, Frosty said:

Correction - almost anything beats watching the Lions. Having to watch Hallmark movies with the wife vs. watching the Lions ? I''ll go mow the lawn - in the rain.

Well, possibly, if the wife finds this out ———— that may be where you’re at!😮! I won’t tell though!

Exactly what Frosty said! Don’t let desire get the best of you! View it as a business transaction nothing more, no matter how much you want the car. Cross all the T’s dot all the I’s. Celebrate after you’ve made a good deal!

53 minutes ago, Ringo64 said:

Not in FL  . High humidity and high temps. Except today, we have a "cold front" that brought it down to bearable.

Good luck with the paint job @notallthere!

 

Dah! Yah, in FL you just throw the paint in the air and drive through it! 😁

57 minutes ago, Frosty said:

The final Pontiac-Buick-Olds-GMC car show of the season, the Bob Seller's Buick-GMC 31st annual Indian Summer car show is this Sunday, September 22, 2019. It is the last of the three "tri-power" Pontiac-Buick-Olds-GMC car shows in SE Michigan. It will be held at the Bob Seller's Buick-GMC dealership at 38000 Grand River Ave in Farmington Hills Michigan. After the awards ceremony, you can cruise to Baker's in Milford where parking spots will be reserved for show participants.

JUSTA6, JUSTAG6, Indyman Joe, and Frosty plan to be there. We hope you will too!

You guys have! Looks like it will be good weather.

1 hour ago, notallthere said:

So pretty much this is how my car life is going,

 

Mask off everything

Sand with 220

Blow off car

Dust wipe

tack cloth

final prep wipe/ degreaser

Primer sealer

Blow off car

Dust wipe

tack cloth

final prep wipe/ degreaser

Primer surfacer

Blow off car

Dust wipe

tack cloth

final prep wipe/ degreaser

Sand with 400

Primer sealer

Gonna be sanding with 1000 grit and remasking the car ready for paint.

Looks really good, I love painting a car! Lots of work, but lots of fun! This is a great time of year to paint. Low humidity, moderate temps.

Good luck!

1 hour ago, Frosty said:

I have found original shop manuals for all three of my cars:

1. 1972 Pontiac Lemans - I own two sets 

2. 1986 Trans Am 

3. 1994 Buick Roadmaster - both volumes I & II

All are worth what I paid for them. All are used but in great shape except the oldest of the two '72 Manuals, which is coming apart. I also purchased the '72 Manual on CD as a back up.

Agreed! I have all the service manuals for all my cars, even the old ones I don’t have any more! To me there’s nothing like a book to reference! They’re right in my shop, 30 seconds it’s open and I’m in business.

26 minutes ago, Frosty said:

I won't watch until they put three winning seasons in row together. That would be a sign of constistency. Something us Lions fans have not had since the late 50s - except for finding unique ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I feel for you both! Brownies, hello! All the NFL hype about this Browns team and so far ———? Not impressed! They’re  better than most of the years since their return, but not much! At least not yet.

Depending on what you want & what you want to spend there is a place called factory repair manuals .com that sells original OEM manuals, the traditional 3 book series for around $280. They are used.

3 hours ago, Frosty said:

First that's a sugar soaked bear! Dude you need to learn your cereal mascot!!! A trip to Battle Creek would do you good.

A sleepy lion no. A win less bunch of Lions....most definitely.

I had a GGGGGRRREEEEAAAAATTTT time. Even a bad day at a car show beats working....

Sorry! All I remember is that damm bee with the spoon flying around my head! 🤪

Here’s the basic concept of the redesign on the splitter. I can’t really show anything on the new concept of the front cover till I get all the parts & than after I put the Indian up for the season I can pull the front end.

I also plan to put in a tranny cooler & and eliminate the radiator cooler! That tranny runs much stronger with cooler fluid. So that will need to be incorporated into the NACA duct design coming from the right side as the left side will be the new feed for the ram air!

Welcome Ben! Love the car, love the color!

1 hour ago, Frosty said:

More pics from the show....

Love the AMX.

A GNX in GS clothing!

Now this guy did something subtle on his grille of his Buick T-type Regal.

How about his and hers '28 Pontiacs? Seriously, this was brought in by a husband and wife team (they are Widetrackers too and friends of JUSTA's).

 

This 4-door Tempest caught my eye.

Talk about no frills - check out the dog dish hubcaps on this Lemans.

Curse you Red Baron!!

Scooby Snack???? Rut Ro! 

Paws is ready to go for a ride in Lucy.

So is Roary, the Detroit Lions mascot.

 

Okay! First you have a sugar soaked tiger in the front seat & now a lion that yawns all the time, aka sleepy, behind the wheel! What’s in the trunk? The Detroit Zoo?

looks like you all had a good time, that’s great or shall I say ggggrrrreeeeaaaat!

7 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Great pics buddy!