Last Indian

7 hours ago, Stewy said:

Here's to you, Bleen - while you may be absent you will never be forgotten. Thank you for all the memories and years of faithful service!

 

Kudos to you Stewy! Most folks would or do think folks like us are crazy! But we get it, and for me that’s enough! When you put that much of yourself in something it takes on a personality, it may be an inanimate object, but really it is so much more! As long as at the end of the day we know what it’s proper place is with respect to other things, than we’re good. 

1 hour ago, SPRINT 6 said:

If all else falls through REBUILDING might be available by White Post;

https://whitepost.com/brake-sleeving-rebuilding-services/

Just what I was thinking Sprint! That’s actually what, I, would do, but I would just bore it out to the next size up and make a new piston for the next size up seals. In that way you’ll move more fluid and make the brakes even better! Any good machine shop could do that.

We’re always glade when things work out! The divider plate proximity to the impeller is another example of cavitation that creates flow disruptions. 
 

Way to go Frosty!

On 5/27/2020 at 8:21 AM, jimbobob said:

I took the thermostat out and the water pump is new. It has a stamped impeller and the divider plate is about 3/8 away from impeller. I am waiting for a cast impeller water pump and I will bend the divider plates closer when the water pump is delivered. I will let you know how it works. Thanks for the info

Ok a couple things strike me. One depending on several things, taking the thermostat out can, not always, but can have a negative impact on engine temp! Pulley size, water pump design and radiator type/design can and does impact coolant flow! If the the combination allows free movement of the coolant it can circulate the coolant to fast never allowing it to stay in the radiator long enough to cool. If the combination causes a restriction in the right place it can cause cavitation, which can act as a type of air lock that causes heating problems. Sometimes it will even allow coolant to move through an engine in a non uniform manner causing localized heating because of areas that become stagnant in movement.

Also you mention that you have a shroud and that the fan is 1” away from the radiator! I presume the shroud is deeper than 1”? If so and the shroud is a typical shroud that is built as a tapper, then the fan blade tips need to be placed at the smallest portion of the shroud opening. Otherwise the fan will actually cause cavitation of the air flow and become very in efficient at moving air through the radiator! To a degree it will act like blocking the front of the radiator to restrict air flow!

13 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

ENJOY!

Ahhh the memories! Dragway 42, Thompson drag raceway, Norwalk! I’ll never get to do that again, but remembering is always good! 

Thanks buddy! Now I have to go get a tissue!

1 hour ago, hayleywr said:

Hey guys!

I'm really struggling to find an answer so I’m hoping there’s someone here that can help!

Ill preface this by saying that I’m brand-new to the classic car resto world and all of this is like speaking another language so please go easy on me haha.

This past weekend, we tore down the engine on my 1966 Pontiac Parisienne. I’m 80% sure it has a 283 Small Block Chevy V8 (haven’t been able to confirm yet from the engine numbers) but is pretty badly seized. 
 

As a replacement, I’ve found a 307 with the body of a 327, pulled out of a 1972 Chevy Nova.

From all the research I’ve done, this should be a compatible swap. I’ll need to replace the water pump but besides that, I’m hoping it will be okay? Someone raises a concern over the bell housing today though and now I’m worried if it will fit.

Again I’m having a really hard time finding this info online but did the Parisienne’s originally come with small block Chevy motors or am I way off? If so, is this a suitable replacement?

many thanks!!

Hayley

Yes, Pontiac, in those years did run a Chevy drivetrain. So the tranny should mate to any Chevy small block engine. That said, depending on what you have to spend and what kind of power you want? The 283 could be the better choice as a rebuild! If built right you could get anywhere from 400 to 500+ hp! Do you know what the tranny is?

1 hour ago, Ringo64 said:

The jack and jack stands I've been using are 3 ton weight capacity. These I've "inherited/gifted" more or less from my dad. Both my cars are under 2 tons so always thought that was at least fine for the most part. After reading about some of these harbor freight recalled brands (mine are not), was reading up on a few things online and they were mentioning making sure your jack stand can handle double your car weight so if your car weighs 2 tons, it should 4 tons. Is that good advice or sticking with 3 tons fine?

Good question Ringo! Depends on a number of factors. First are they tripods or four sided? Stamped steel or cast aluminum! Ratchet tooth or shear pin? If stamped steel do you know what gage or can you measure the thickness of the steel?

Finally, do you use them to just change tires & oil or do you do more vigorous work under the car?

Additionally I should include that each stand supports 3 ton. So say you have 4 stands & put the entire car in the air you are supporting, as an example, 2 ton with 12 ton! If we divide the car in quarters each quarter weighs approximately 1/2 a ton. Which is being supported by a 3 ton jack stand!

13 hours ago, Frosty said:

As far as I know, it's the original heater core - so its about 48 years old.

I use a 50/50 mix of Prestone and water (green stuff).

Well, I’d say you got your money’s worth out of it! I figured you didn’t use Dex-cool, but you never know! That s- - t is bad stuff!

I feel for you buddy! Been there do that, only in a stone driveway and no convertible! You are right, it's ugly!

How old is the core? & Quick question, what kind of anti-freeze do you use?

Welcome Thomas! I thought you were a Ford guy!

4 minutes ago, Frosty said:

GTO/GT-37/Lemans are all the same dash for 1972. So I can use the GTO option.

Ok! On the custom autosound site they show three choices for GTO, but none for Lemans!

1 hour ago, Frosty said:

Is there something wrong with Corvette blue? Isn't that the proper Smurf color?

Sorry - I guess that hat was too limp. Here it is erect.

I looked up Crutchfield. All the custom fit radios for Lucy are all Retrosound units. Curious.

Ok! That’s better! Now that’s my hat!

I see that, but custom autosound shows no radio for the Lemans! I assume that the GTO dash for the radio is enough different?!

20 minutes ago, Frosty said:

I see the resemblance.

My goal for this weekend is to finish ripping the interior out of Lucy and see if the heater core is actually leaking. Carpet is ruined for sure - hence the need to yank everything out in the first place.

I'm thinking of swapping out radios. I have a rebuilt Delco AM/FM unit n Lucy now - tied to a CD changer. I am thinking of going to either a Custom Autosound or a Retrosound unit. I want to be able to play tunes from my cell and go hands free with the phone. Just wondering if anyone has had good or bad experience with either. I definitely am not looking to cut up the dash and I want as near-stock appearing as I can. Thoughts anyone?

I’m sorry, but coloring is more on the Corvette blue side! I also don’t wear that style of a hat! 

On the important side of things! You may have dealt with them before, but if not you might try them! Crutchfield, I have done business with them since the late “70s”! They have always been very good, helpful & knowledgeable. Easy to do business with easy return policy if needed, etc.. 

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-IDWuOkbb60b/

2 hours ago, Frosty said:

A new toboggan? Snow shoes? Water skis? A teeter tooter for the grand kids? 

Ok wise acre! It a smurf bench top! 

Well got went to my local metal supplier today! Got this for a new project I’ll start who knows when?! Any guesses as to what it will become?

18 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Last indian, what gets me is your sooo clearly a patient man 

 but also clearly very clever!

 why did you spend your working life as a oil scientist when you could have been in automotive design ?

 i am in aww off what you have hand made!

 you have shown us your super clean engineering shop/ garage 

 i am thinking you have always done this... these 2 fields are so far way from each other, i wonder if you had always had this hands on metal thing going on ??🙄

First of all thank you for the kind words, but I hope I did not mislead anyone! I don’t think I did, but if I did I apologize! I am not a scientist, a chemist or an engineer, at least by formal education! Yes I did all of these things in one form or another for my company for many years, & loved every minute of doing it. In many ways I was viewed as such to the point it caused embarrassment more than once for folks within my own company! 
There were times we would host an outside person or group or company or would go to another company for an exchange about work we were engage with together. They would assume as you that I was one of those things. It wasn’t uncommon that I would garner the attention, because to them it seemed that I had this breadth of knowledge that spanned both chemistry, mechanically function & application. Where my colleagues did not seem that why, and in my colleagues defense more than one of them said they did not. But to me in their field I was no where near even a distant second! Still when these time occurred & I would need to set them straight that I was not what it was they assumed, the others always had to defend the fact that this fact was not meant to deceive, just an oversight that had not been conveyed. In the end it never seemed to matter to any of them.
So as to not beleaguer this any longer than necessary, I finished high school, that’s it! Not to belittle myself, so yes I was smart, but a bad home life, hating school except for sports, which could have maybe gone somewhere if I had parents that had been supportive to that, but! Yah so that led to basically a kid with no direction, no interest in school and not sure where to head. 
I had already been doing these thing for my company for 10 years, when a colleague that I worked with for just a few short years, and then he left, said to me, “ you have a God given talent, I can’t believe what you do”! I can’t argue that! And so I really can’t take credit for it either! I never touched a lathe, mill, drill press or any of that type machinery! Never took a class for it in my life! But I could just run them & at a skilled level from the start. I never learned or knew how to weld, no one ever taught me, not any kind! But I just started welding when I needed it and I could, ark, tig, mig & oxyacetylene! Never studied chemistry beyond high school chemistry, but I for some reason understood all these things about it. I went to this company as a 25 year old machinist looking for a job! A chemical company! The world headquarters & r&d facility! A place that had 4 machinists in it, period. A 25 year old with 3 years machine experience. 10 years after I started, I end up doing special corporate r&d development projects for the next 30! You explain it, I can’t! And that’s why I did that work and not automotive design, not that anyone would have offered it to me! Go figure!
 

3 hours ago, Frosty said:

I'd love to own it Kiwi. My problem is where to store it. I already have no place for my 3 classic cars, where the heck am I going to put this beast?

Well if you modify the back end right and put a top canopy on it you can park Lucy on the back and use it as a transport and portable garage! And if she over heats again, you have a portable water supply! 😁 See how things work out!

4 hours ago, Frosty said:

Nah - Kiwi - not my style. I'd have to change the hat. The nose would have to have boogers hanging out of it too. 

This is what I looked at over the weekend. It is a 1975 International Harvester fire truck. It has an IH 392 engine. Hydro-boost brakes. It has under 9000 miles on it. Slight rust in the driver's side rear fender. $5000 and it's mine.

 

Frosty! You might want to be carful, if they run low on water they may melt you down, suck you up through the hose & adios Frosty!  ah! I kill me!