Last Indian

15 minutes ago, Ringo64 said:

Definitely a Classic Rock fan here, pretty much all I listen to. Born in the 80s, can't stand any modern music. Tom Petty and the Heartbreaks are by far my favorite band. 

Haven't dug too deep with Whitesnake but know all the popular ones. Steppenwolf was overplayed on the radio here when I spent a lot of my time commuting in college between work/school/home so I literally cringe now when Magic Carpet Ride or Born to be Wild comes on the radio  

I can understand that! My wife used to cringe when I would play Boston! Same deal, I played them non-stop when they came out. The ultimate gunslinger band sound! You know multiple guitars playing in harmony! She’s over that now though!

Love Tom Petty, and pretty much any kind of music! Rock, blues, classical, some country, some of the Seattle sound, but metal always moved my soul, kind of like a beautifully designed car that looks good standing still, but when you get in and it goes from 0 to 100 and back to 0 through a road course, WOW! Kind of like that!

12 hours ago, Ringo64 said:

Daaaaaaaasyuuuuummmm! That’s is some nice finish! Great job!

Plus nice, Whitesnake 

That’s hilarious!  I forgot all about sound! I always have my sound off, so I didn’t listen to any of them in playback with sound!

And yes! I am so old that I am one of the original headbangers! Most folks only know of Whitesnake from the big hair era, but they came out long before then! I knew of Coverdale from his Deep Purple days. Most think of heavy metal as Metallica and the like, but the first actually Heavy Metal band was Steppenwolf!

Congratulations! Beautiful car! And a GP to boot! Cool!

On 8/27/2020 at 5:47 AM, Frosty said:

I was having issues when I turn on the headlights. Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the dash lights would not come on for several minutes. Kinda scary on dark nights. Other times if I turn the knob to adjust the brightness of the dash lights, I could see it directly affect the gas and water temperature gage readings. This appeared to be a classic case of a bad or intermittent ground or short.

Then I took the dash out to replace the bulbs with LEDs and I noticed the circuit board where it plugs into the wiring harness and how it was starting to delaminate at the connection. I figured that might be contributing to my dash problems. So a new one was ordered.

Sorry Frosty, I’m a little slow on replying! One thing to consider with the issues you’re having are the LEDs! Depending on the type of LEDs you get and where they are going in the circuitry, they can cause issues because of polarity! Such as you need a different flasher module for LEDs! Side turn signal lights that flash opposite with the front or back turn signals won’t work period if you use 196 LEDs in the side marker lights. In some cases lights won’t dim properly, etc. FYI!

15 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

i was impressed buy this one that was for sale

 

dont know about the wheels though, what do you guys think🙄

Last Indian, i know your the king of aluminium, and you have seen, i have the factory "8 lug" rims on my 64 

what are your thoughts on how to restore them ?

Well depends on what you want? If you want a factory OEM finish than they will need to go on a lathe! If you don’t care about being OEM correct than they don’t!

From what I remember, Frosty can set me straight one way or the other, the fins had a machined finish. So you can’t restore that correctly without remachining them! It would be a very light cut .010 to .015 thousandth, and I’m speaking just about machining the fin face, nothing more, but that requires a lathe and an indicator + a good machinist and a fair size lathe! But first you would glass bead them, not sand Blast! The first will clean then and strip the paint the latter will remove aluminum. The first will slightly brighten the second will tend to dull them.

If you don’t care about the OEM look, then glass bead the wheels. Than using a hand block sander, sand each fin up and down, not crossways, starting with 3M 280 wet and dry carborundum paper, then 400 grit, followed by 600, then 1200! 
once that’s done the fins should have a nice Reflection when you look at the surface on an angle. The next two steps will bring out the mirror look! Using an SOS pad, blue soap steel wool pad and water, polish the fins up and down. Make sure the steel wool stays heavily soaped. That will give the fins a glossy mirror look. Finally finishing with my favorite metal polish, Happich simichrome polish! I have used a lot of hand rub metal polishes in my life and for me none come close to simichrome! If you don’t have access to SOS pads or the like you can use plain fine, not course, steel wool pads covered liberal with a liquid hand soap and water. Just don’t use as much water.

Than when you are all done you can paint the areas you want to paint!

Just now, 64 kiwi boni said:

great work mate, looks blood awsum

Those links work better?

With Indian nearly finish; well at least for this year, here’s a walk around!
https://1drv.ms/v/s!ApYhZl8sk2DFxnPBFtiYyskJKHth2000
                                          &

Engine bay! 
https://1drv.ms/v/s!ApYhZl8sk2DFxnL-3IIP3X0SDJJZ

10 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Last Indian, i would really like to see your video, but its taking too long to down load and times out!🙄

 is it something to do with site up grades ? or is it too big of a file? 

 hell i dont know i am tradie !..frosty.Ringo. is this your department ???

soo hanging out to see your craftsmanship 

 

Maybe this will work better for you Kiwi! But I’m not sure!
https://1drv.ms/v/s!ApYhZl8sk2DFxnPBFtiYyskJKHth

Wrong link, try this one. The one above is a walk around. The bottom one is the interior.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!ApYhZl8sk2DFxnHXM2ZbDhgvM7dq
 

This one is the engine bay. If they work!🤪

https://1drv.ms/v/s!ApYhZl8sk2DFxnL-3IIP3X0SDJJZ

23 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Amazing as always..  So in one shot, there is a reflection of the Buick emblem.  Had to be an angle thing cause I don't see it out in plain sight.  You da man.

Up it’s my black Buick LaCrosse! It’s backed in facing the Indian!

More play time today! Wow two times in one week! Oh wait! Today’s a new week! Dah! The Indians Interior video.

F.1 GTX Grand Prix walk around (The Last Indian)

this one might work better?
https://1drv.ms/v/s!ApYhZl8sk2DFxnPBFtiYyskJKHth2000

On 8/24/2020 at 2:23 PM, Frosty said:

I got to spend almost 2 days working on Lucy this weekend. It was hot and it was even hotter working with the heat gun! I think I tweaked my knee in the process. It's been screaming at me all night and all day today. It hasn't hurt this bad in months.

Frosty, you known I feel for you! Two major knee surgeries just to put my knee back together from football; wow! And the other needed surgery, but I never did get it. But, I did find quite awhile ago that at least for me, what keeps my knees good! I mean good, bend, squat, kneel for extended periods of time was this! Every morning I kneel like the Land O Lakes Indian maiden for a full minute! Basically I sit right done on my heels. That said I did have to work up to it slowly! In the beginning I thought my knees were going to come apart like a chicken leg.

But be carful if you try it your issue might be completely different from mine!

Welcome! Always liked the big GP’s of the 70’s! 

11 hours ago, Frosty said:

Almost any trip without the boss lady is bound to be a good trip....no supervision!!! Wahoo! 

Palmerston north! reminds me of Omaha Nebraska. I bought a T-shirt when I was there in the 1980s, it said "Omaha Nebraka, Known Worldwisde for Absolutely Nothing".

Of course, Omaha's real claims to fame was (A) it was Henry Fonda's boyhood home town and (B) it is home to the College World Series, and (C)  it was home to the former U.S. Strategic Air Command HQ. This lead to another T-shirt with a mushroom cloud on it that read "Omaha Nebraska - Ground Zero USA!". Come to think of it, I have a sounvenir baseball from old Rosenblatt Staduim somewhere.

Enjoy the road trip. I agree with you - you only live once.

....and why do most men die before their wives? Because they WANT to.

 

Ahh! Omaha! Been there done that! Uncle Warren lives there! You know Buffett! Spent lots of time there, Council Bluffs Iowa and Lincoln Nebraska between “96” and 2003 on the railroad project for oil drain extensions that our team developed. Union Pacific Railroad’s headquarters is in Omaha. Talk about wide open spaces! 
Side-note did you all know that Abraham Lincoln founded Union Pacific Railroad? 

On 8/9/2020 at 7:03 AM, Frosty said:

Busy day for me. I managed to squeeze some time in on Lucy. I got the new RetroSound radio installed in the dash, I swapped out the old circuit board in the back of the gauges for a new one. I re-did the wiring harness for the new tach. I got the dash re-mounted but not fully installed by the time I had to clean up and go to the club meeting.

Here is what Lucy looked like this morning!

I had to cut my day short to go to the Widetrackers club meeting. We were meeting at the Pontiac Transportation Museum site in Pontiac for a meeting, a tour, and then a cruise down famous Woodward Avenue! So I rushed and put Lucy away, showered, and got the Buick Roadmonster out for its first ever Woodward Cruise.

I’ll post about the PTM and Woodward in a separate thread later. Of course I took pictures. Oh and I met up with another member of the FP family for the first time?!

Boy does that look familiar! Looks a lot like my 69Z did after a dash fire! Wow what a mess! Especially after it’s been dry chemical sprayed to extinguish it and then an added dash of monoammonium phosphate, just to make sure all A type combustibles are out too! Yuck! Kudos Frosty ! That’s a lot of work and in very uncomfortable positions lots of times!

22 hours ago, Fitzy said:

Goodness me, what a response. 

Frosty's storage sheds full of, what was it, scrapbooking??? THREE sheds? And Last Indian's Kirby vac story - hilarious!

I'll add that my missus also keeps our hillbilly shed absolutely spotless, despite me trudging detritus through the ahem, living room en route to the Pontiac room. It's not all one way though - I defend the place by keeping the bears & wolves at bay, so I'm worth having around, right? I said RIGHT, honey?

I keep waiting for Ringo to intervene and make us stay on topic, which was apparently my GP. I'll post something once I get home and actually physically see the car again - it's been a while now. Actually, here's a new topic. I want to somehow lock the external hood latch lever as some attempt to stop someone hot wiring the car. If anyone has successfully and neatly done such a thing, let me know, will you?

Well, that becomes a little difficult as basically on the old cars you can lay on your back reach up and pop the hood! No latch lever required! 
That said there are a couple things you can do! First take the coil wire going to the distributor run it into the cabin of the car. Take it to like the glove box! When I did mine on my Camaros I actually built a hidden compartment that you accessed through the glove box. I ran the wire to a toggle switch in the hidden compartment. The other side of the switch I ran back to the distributor. With the switch off even if they try to hot wire it won’t work. The other, but I don’t know if your Grand Prix has a nutral safety switch? But if it does you break one side of the switch and run it to a momentary switch! Without the momentary engaged while starting the car, it won’t start.

3 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

So I thought I had the bog figured out,  but a test ride proved I moved the bog to Justa off idle.  WTF?  So some shoulder of the road test N tune got me back running well off idle til the other 2 carbs lick in = BOG. Got it home and front carb is puking gas all over.  Mainly leaking from both sides of the throttle shaft.  When car is not running. Thinkin the float is stuck.  Gonna miss meetin up with Frosty,  Widetrackers and reveredGTO and the 1st Woodward Cruise of the year!.   I'll teach the GTO a lesson.....it can sit there N RUST!

Hang in there buddy! You’ll get it figured out! I know it can be exasperating!