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4 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
Hi last Indian, yes i had completely forgotten that!
i know that all other factors are correct, like the engine is on the correct mounts, diff is at the correct angle thanks to the stock control arms and my only variable is the up down location of that trans mount, and not having another one from the donner chassis i reused the one off my bent frame.
what i will do is wait, like you said till i have the front suspension completed, sheet metal on and i have the ride height correct, then i will use my digital level on the carb base to check what its at. It is a simple cross member to pull and adjust.👍
So your thought would be to have the engine at level with the car sitting at the correct ride height, and that should provide the correct angle out of the trans to the drive shaft? or should i be also and checking the degree of angle that drive shaft is at too?
last Indian the other issue I would like your thoughts on is the steering arm that was out by 16mm, i have put it in the press and moved it back to the correct location and fitted it back up so that i have steering.
i dont have a spare one, what are your thoughts on having it crack tested and possible reusing it ?
i did not heat it up, i simply pressed it as in the picture🙄
Once you install the driveshaft you should check the driveshaft angle to verify it’s in the proper range. If it ends up out of range you’ll have to determine what you might change if anything! But knowing where it’s at is always good to know!
The steering arm is most likely ok! First of all it’s cast steel, which is more ductile! Cast iron is pretty unforgiving. Plus 5/8 of an inch movement in the arch that your steering arm has isn’t much! Last if you have a concern you could get the arm shot peened and than magnafluxed!
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9 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:LMAO NOT the smartest thing I've ever done. Have an industrial come along. Cut a 6X6 barn beam to cover 4, 2X4 trusses for each end of the body. Lifted the front of the body 4in and left it hangin by chain. I had mis- aligned the front 6X6 and was off center on the rear of the body leaving most of the weight on 2 trusses. YEP Snap....busted one of the trusses while pulling out the old frame. If this thing goes any more South, I not only take out my project GTO but my Sunbird sittin next to it as well. 16 x24 garage with one side of each car tucked up against the wall. Scrambled to get the setup that failed on the donor body in place with cinder blocks and 4X4's to sit on, with JUSTA nuff room (1in clearance for the outside edge of the tires) to roll the frame QUICKLY but carefully in place. Lowered the bod back down and lined up 1 rear body mount bolt. Then to the front. Had a hell of time lining up the front mounts missing by a half in. I was down to the last 1/4in and couldn't get the bolts in soooo. Mighty Mouse here has the weight in the rear JUSTA off the mount with a 2X4 and floor jack. Same in front, I grab the front of the body by the steering column hole and the heater core hole and pick it up, move it Justa bit and of course one of 2x4's slipped dropping the body 3/4 in or so but perfectly in place. Problem was, tore my right rotator cuff (that was already tore in one spot) and all of the 4 tendons that work my right arm. My right arm was dangling and I couldn't move it. My fingers still worked. So finished installing the bolts on the body mounts before going in to tell the wife the good news. My bicept is now down at my elbo as they not able to re attach that one during surgery. When it was in the air I realized how bad it was really rusted. The frame shop said to junk it. Didn't believe him. Not about to give up now. Floor pans front to trunk, all new bracing, inner rockers, and about 6in of the pillar post/kick panel to the top of the vent. New body mount brackets in the rear and repair kits for some of the others. OHHH for the LOVE of PONTIAC.
Been there! Done that! Not to take one damn thing away from the amazing job you did buddy! But at least you had a garage! When I did the full frame conversion on the “69” , I had a set of homemade wood sawhorses and a stone driveway! I still have indents in my back!😳
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7 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:This with the big dent in the drive shaft suggested that this car must have been put on a stack , it the only way I can think that not only the drive shaft was bent but the trans mount got pushed up .
So I have removed the tube cross member and put it in my press and moved it 30mm and now it sit the trans where I think it should be
I can see the trans Pan is parallel to the frame rails and I have clearance for the drive shaft
Kiwi, It is reasonable to presume that the tranny pan should be parallel to the frame rails, but what is actually more relevant is that the mounting face of the carburetor on the intake manifold be level! This needs to be level! This can only be done accurately when the car is on the ground and the suspension is complete and loaded! I.E. car is basically completed, interior is in, all body panels on, gas tank full or at least approximated with weight, etc.. This is actually a fairly critical measurement as it then will give you the angle of the driveshaft to the differential! Which in turn is relevant, because you need a proper angle within a range to make the universal joints work, but not so great that it causes the driveshaft to whip!
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On 1/5/2021 at 3:06 AM, 64 kiwi boni said:Yeah GM used the choke thing to help speed up engine heat up! Never liked it, never made any real cense! If it fails on the closed position that’s bad, but most of the time they just rust open! Then in time the cross shaft rusts through the shaft tends to fall out and the butterfly plate drops into the exhaust! If you’re lucky it sits parallel in the exhaust pipe, if not, it turns vertical and blocks off the whole exhaust. Long story short, get rid of it! Just drill & tap out the hole on both sides to the next closest size pipe thread and tap it! Get some Stainless Steel pipe plugs and seal them off. Just my two cents!
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1 hour ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
oh my by gessus!!! JustA your on to it!!!!! that will work perfectly!!!
i can take the arms off find a old 9/16 bolt and using my press, open up that inner sleeve the 1/16 it needs .... your sooo right it wont impact the job it has too do at all!!!👍 thank you mate
JustA’s idea should prove good! As he indicates, in this type of bushing the only purpose the steel tube & bolt serve is to contract the bracket sides in against the steel tube! Once torqued the bolt, steel tube & bracket side should be married together.
What I would do additionally though is this! Once you press the 9/16 bolt through the sleeve and than back out and replace it with a new bolt, coat the inside of the sleeve with anti-seize & when you install the bolt coat the bolt as well! This is because the bolt and sleeve will have a much closer fit than is typical! That will percipient corrosion between the two more than normal! Which may make it nearly impossible to get apart in a normal manner, if that time ever comes.
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16 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
Last Indian, the inner bush sleeve looks to be cold rolled steel,as i can see it has a gap in the tube roll, is it machinable ??
Yes & no! It’s not, in most cases anyway, cold roll! Usually it’s a tempered steel, so it’s pretty tough! Meaning a standard drill won’t cut it. Also they are never round, which makes it all the harder to drill!
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3 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
I don’t like that kind of clearance! IMO you’re JustA asking for trouble! So looking at it I see two remedies! JustA’s idea is a good remedy! I would use at least 1/8” thick washers with a fairly close 1/2” hole, .510 to .515. Then tack weld them in at less three places! The other would be take a grade 8, 9/16 bolt that is long enough that when it goes all the way through the unthreaded part sick’s out past where you would put the nut. The turn down the shaft of the bolt down to .510 to .520. At the head end of the bolt leave a 1/6” wide step that’s .565 to .570. At the other end you will have to thread the new bolt size to 1/2” thread. The machine a special nut the has a step on it to match the .573 bracket hole, but a little smaller.
I hope that’s clear as mud! If you need a sketch let me know & I’ll make one!
3 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:i wonder if yunick ran a rear sway bar🙄
No they did not, but they tended To run soft rear springs with stiff front springs! This made the car sit down in the back which has a stabilizing effect when cornering!
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7 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
i have a issue and i am really hoping Last Indian will see this post and tell me if i am worrying for no reason !
yesterday i assembled the lower a arms onto the 64 frame, went to insert the bolts through the frame and bushings and they didnt fit !!! my bushings are 1/2 inch yet my frame rails they bolt through are 9/16.
now that means i need to get 1/2 bolts to clamp up these lower arms, but that now means i have a 1/16 play in each mount....
do i
A bolt them up tight and not worry
B try and drill the bushings out to 9/16.... which i think will devulcanize them
or C get a machine shop to make a 1/16 bush to fit in each frame rail bolt holes ???????
First of all how big is the outside diameter of the inner steel sleeve in the vulcanized rubber?
It’s a problem, but not to worry! You can fix it! You need one of two remedies! The simplest is two special washers for each side of the 1/2” bolt. So depending on how large the outer diameter is of the sleeve is will determine what those washers look like!Aarms like other vulcanized bushing need the center steel sleeve clamped to the frame/bracket by the through bolt! This is what make the vulcanized bushing do it’s job!
Once you tell me what that O.D. Is I’ll determine what the washer should look like!
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Well yes it’s winter again! So it’s itch time again. I made the new shift knob a couple years ago now, but it just never grabbed me the way I thought it would so I’m back at it again!
First I thought I would do one out of my amber Ultem material! I got about half way through and that JustA didn’t look like I was going to like how it would turn out. So I thought about a different aluminum design!
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On 11/12/2020 at 11:49 PM, 64 kiwi boni said:This is the one car i regret selling, it took me years to build as the kids where young, we had no money, i was working weekends and nights to generate money to feed my petrolhead addiction.
And once it was finished, a guy walked up to me one day and offered me lots of cash and i ..... being a total dumb arse said yes😞...
yeah i know what your thinking its justA four door, but this was a new zealand new car, shipped from canada and assembled in Petone nz and first sold to a potato farmer in Hunterville, just 2 hours away from me.
when i sold her, she sported a 454 big block with turbo 400 and a carmaro diff
she was my first ground up rebuild and i was dam proud to show her off, run her down the drag strip and .... well back then, we used to do lots of skids😋
Back then it was a base coat grey, perl blue then clear top coat with a sit load of colour sanding
think it was 11 coats all up... in my shed.. not a bake oven😜
truely got pisted off with the bugs wanting to sit on my progress too!!!😡
Nothing wrong with a 4 door! Some of the best sleepers are 4 doors! Beware the 4 door that looks mean! It just might be!
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15 minutes ago, indymanjoe said:
If that Package tray is anything related to what ya did on the inside i want to see more pics. Beautiful ride!
You’re right Indyman, that rear tray looks pretty nice ! Let’s see some more pics please!
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On 12/10/2020 at 8:24 AM, Frosty said:Spacers aren't factory. I think someone added them to prevent the drum from rusting onto the hub. That's my suspicion anyway.
What Frosty said! I’ve seen that before, but it’s a bad move! It destabilizes the drum, it also puts all the load of the wheel on small contact points that can then tend to warp the face of the drum! If you don’t want the drum face to stick to the hub or the center cone that houses the wheel bearings you use a painted on thin layer of anti-seize!
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I’m thinking Pontiac should sue for trademark violations!😁
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I voted buddy!😃
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5 hours ago, Old guy44 said:
I hate keys so installed a keyless entry push button start in my '63 Catalina. Now I am trying to make the trunk electric. Dur to age and COVID I have avoided going over to pick a part and scouring wrecks to find an electric lock that I can adapt. Does anyone know of an electric lock that can be adapted? I have looked at the existing from every angle and do not see any way to convert it so I need a replacement.
It would take some modifications and what that would require I can’t say. But the actuator on my 2000 Grand Prix would most likely work, if modified correctly. It attaches to the lock cylinder shaft that turns the lock latch. So in this way you can use either the key or electric lock switch! The number for that part is, 16640848.
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On 11/26/2020 at 11:54 PM, 64 kiwi boni said:
so i planned to head beach and get the gib up in the new bathroom and hang the 4 new doors... wire up the lights etc 🙄
Not going to happen!! the hedge trimmer guy arrived and has knocked the tops and sides off all our hedges which means i have to say home and clean up the bloody mess😞, it will take most of this weekend 😡
Hey! That’s cheating! I have a hedge of arborvitae at least that tall 200’ in length & I have to stand on a 10’ step ladder 1 rung from the top, hold out a 7’ hedge trimmer to cut mine. Then move the ladder and do it again & again & again then go to the other side and do it all over again! 🥵 But they are nice! Yours I mean!
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On 11/25/2020 at 2:09 PM, Frosty said:Look bucko, this was the kids idea AND this is on a 35 year newer vehicle!!! Wise acre!
At least with Lucy I can get the bulbs in and out!!! They just don't work for some reason (not beyond calling it human error at this point).
Being that the 192’s are a flat blade type bulbs I’ve seen two things happen with them. One the looped wire that makes the connection on alternate sides of the bulb gets bent acts like a wedge. The other is they corrode and adhere to the brass connector!
So two things to try! First put a couple drops of lPS 1 of 2 down in the socket let it sit a few minutes! Now take some lacquer thinner and put several drops in the socket! Invert the socket to dump out the thinner. Wipe the bulb off with a little more thinner. Now take a set of small thin needle nose pliers, like you would use on circuit board components. The thin blades of the needle nose need to under the lower indent register of the 192 bulb and the socket top! Put a piece of thin neoprene or latex between the bulb and the pliers. Squeeze the pliers so the plier jaws/blades can act like a fulcrum between the bulb and the socket top.
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6 hours ago, Bernie S said:
by the way I know I posted some camaros but big fan Of Pontiac and firebirds- my next build!
lol too funny usually Port Huron..I used visit a very close friend in Arkansas but crossed there often and no unfortunately not dream cruise- next year!
Welcome! Not a thing wrong with Camaro's’ my friend! One of my all time favorites! In the day, bite my tongue, the first gen Camaro's out sold the Firebirds a little more than 3 to 1! I bought a brand new “69” Z in the spring of “70” & owed it for 35 years! Still miss it! That was after owning “64” GTO!
Anyway, I will presume you know what you have! So the 433 rear end was not a production option in “67” it was in “68” so I would presume someone swapped it before you bought the car.- 2
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General Motors redesigns it's corporate logo as it focuses on electric vehicles
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I’ll apologize up front if I offend anyone! Oh what the hell no I don’t!
This is in a nutshell the emasculation of American! It started quite a while ago, but really gained ground under the Obama administration, sorry just a fact!
Want more proof, see what the Democratic’s did in congress two weeks ago? Now in congress sessions you can’t be a father or brother or father-in-law, etc... And the list goes on and on! This is to strip every single one of us of our masculinity or femininity, our civil rights under the constitution, which you can pretty much wipe your you know what with now! We must be gender neutral!!
So psychologically it filters down to things like a logo, seriously it does! The old GM logo was bold, masculine, powerful! It said GM! Take notice of me! Now it’s going to says I’m fragile don’t look at me or I might cry!