kaymo

well i apologize for coming off that way, but i did not say it to "get back at him" his remarks may have started me on a rant, but they did not anger me. when someone says something silly without basis in reality, i tend to get sarcastic. i do apologize for that, but i wont apologize for going off on anyone who says "i street race" or "im a street racer" because people get hurt or killed. not just the racers, but innocent bystanders. our families are out there driving. your grandmother, my grandmother. i take that seriously, as should he. and before anyone says well you dont live where i live----- you dont know where my family members live. they might live on the street you decide to race down..... yeah we all have done stupid things. i was clocked at 104mph in my CRX and i was slowing down. stupid yes. but i was on a deserted highway far away from any major city, at 2am. and yeah, i was 19. that being said, no we didnt ALL do it. just the dumb ones. thats why i said something. i was dumb once, and us dummies need to learnz our younger dummies so they dont make the same dumb mistake, and end up taking out a family of five. or my grandmother, who still drives at 84 years old. killiger, if you are gonna risk someones life, make sure its ONLY your own. go find a deserted highway. move to arizona if you got the speed bug that bad they got miles and miles of un-patrolled highway. otherwise keep it to the track or keep it to yourself... ...because some of us have lost people they would have rather not lost... </endrant>

maybe you arent the person that needs to see the purpose behind it. what war are we talking about? war on terror? war on drugs? lol i wasnt fighting any wars here. i simply dont understand why someone would go on a public forum and admit that he/she street races when its: A: stupid B: illegal C: the reason many cops stop ANY modified cars D: not something you do in a four door sedan E: stupid keep it on the track. on the CRX forums i use, there are RULES against kill stories and discussion of racing on public roads. sure there are some that do but they are smart enough to keep it to themselves, but more othen, keep it to the TRACK. you can scoff/laugh all you want until someone you know, hang out with, or love is killed by some dumb asshole who was racing on public streets.

i am replying to something HE said in HIS thread, so how is this OT? he brought it up....

not to burst anyone's bubble, but honda guys have been filling their motor mounts for ages with this window weld and/or polyurethane sealer. never heard of problems with it "getting hard" and cracking and breaking. its polyurethane rubber. it stays flexible. ive even seen pictures of a crashed honda that took a big front end impact, and the mounts still held. they were over a year old at that point. also, i have used this to repair two trailing arm bushings. they werent your normal type bushing tho, you would just have to look at an 88-91 civic trailing arm to see what i mean. worked great i see that car every day and its suspension is beat to death daily! oh and i just sold a set of filled honda motor mounts for 10 dollars more than new ones cost. not a bad profit from a 7 dollar tube of poly yeah its only 7 dollars at home depot, but its not quite as stiff as the window weld. good for allowing some give to retain comfort

that aztek is SWEET. now if only Gm had done that to begin with... maybe it wouldnt have KILLED pontiac heres a firebird on big wheels and tires: http://www.4x4offroads.com/1968-pontiac-firebird-4x4.html

you mean like Sam's firebird there? thats because the camaro was designed after an older camaro... so why would they redo it and make it more like the 96 firechicken? like YOU said its meant to look like the 77. good eye. and yeah its just a movie car its not like pontiac is gonna raise from the dead i like it. altho i think i saw another firebird remake of the camaro i liked better.

and you told me not to think my honda is a race car? yet you "street race" your four door sedan....

can get a BETTER engine cheaper remember, pretty much every honda motor was designed and built by its racing dept. then they send the nice aluminum race bred engine over to the car division where they hang a bunch of heavy pieces of cast steel on it and slap it in every passenger car and van that comes down the line thats why the normal engine life for a honda is 300k. i dont know how many WRECKED 300k mile hondas ive seen in the JY!!!!!

jedi, you also make excellent points and i agree with most of it. however. one-its mostly apples and oranges with your monte vs a honda, but honda still built bulletproof civics in 81. but its no monte! two- japan HAS to limit the number of american cars sold there. japan loves american stuff as much as riceboys love JDM shit. if every japanese person bought an escolade, their small little crowded island WOULD SINK INTO THE SEA. there just ISNT the room for as many american cars there as we have imports here! three- your arguements all go towards the politics of the issue. i agree with them mostly but i thought we were talking about quality of the cars, and as you said yourself its taken the big three a long time to get serious about quality!!! it took the japanese kicking their asses to get them in gear. they brought it on themselves. if they built a better econobox that was a retarded fast go kart, id have an american one. but alas honda does it better! chaosweaver- yes they outsource, but to what extent? there comes a point where its just not an american car anymore. especially if its built in SOUTH KOREA

oh yeah and i forgot to ask.... Jedi said this was an american car forum... but isnt the pontiac vibe simply a rebadged toyota matrix? and the new GTO a holden? saturn VUE? yeah that comes with honda's 3.5 L v6 and from cars.com: "Globalized production, of course, also means that a number of popular models already aren't as homegrown as you might think. Take cars like the Ford Mustang, Chevy Impala and Chrysler 300: The Michigan-built Mustang has a disappointing 65 percent domestic-parts content rating, while the 300 and Impala are built in Canada. What's more, America's beloved retro hatchbacks, the Chevy HHR and soon-to-be-discontinued Chrysler PT Cruiser, are built in Mexico. The pint-sized Chevy Aveo is built in South Korea." so when we say american cars are better.... what cars are you talking about? the imported ones? ok can we talk COMPARABLE CARS and not "oh ill take that bmw m3 over that honda accord any day" well DUHHHHH oh and roadwarrior, i that honda auto trannies suck. ive had one, and never one since. that being said however, i have seen honda auto transmissions working fine at 300k miles! it all depends on HOW IT WAS TREATED and IF IT WAS PROPERLY MAINTAINED which means CHANGING THE FLUID AT RECOMMENDED INTERVALS. NONE of the broken auto trans i have seen or driven had their fluid ever checked, changed, or not BEAT ON by a ricer that thought changing gears in an auto was NECESSARY

yeah i was gonna debadge some more but when i realized its not just stick on stuff i was like nah ill leave it. i keep wanting to mod it but i keep wanting to keep it stock so it doesnt attract too much attention. i need to go finish my stereo install. just got a new(to me) 50x6 amp today!! hopefully it works....

holy crap its a honda RUNNNNN!!!! the f22 has great potential. just make sure those balance shafts are properly aligned!! otherwise it will SUXOR

ok seriously dude, did you learn english from miss south carolina? "and it but like they dont look godd" <---LOL i have no idea no one said anything about turning heads. we're talking about what is a better car. not better looking or what sounds better. yes, i know that most RICERS put bumblebee exhaust on their car. BUT GUESS WHAT. you know what kind of cars i have seen the those rice cannons on the MOST? DOMESTIC RICE. i see a dodge neon every day with a fart can. i see more cavi's and neons and even ford rangers with fart pipes than i do hondas. its too much work to twincharge crap? dude, thats because you dont understand what twincharging is really for. you can put a single turbo on a honda motor and put down 600 hp (i know someone that does in his 86 hatchback) but its whats called a DYNO QUEEN. that means it puts down that number at HIGH RPM. the idea about twincharging is to have the supercharger putting out plenty of boost right off of idle, and the turbo kicking in at mid range to continue the boost after the supercharger runs out of breath. and yes, you can put a supercharger on an LS1, but you arent going to put down anything. an LS1 is a motor, not a vehicle. and it also doesnt fit in my honda (without modfication, since someone has put a SBC in a first gen CRX before) ooo it sounds better.... IT STILL DONT FIT IN MY CAR. sure anyone can go out and buy a trans am and have a fast car. where is YOUR ls1 if its soooo simple??? and that brings me to another point. so what if you can get 400 hp out of a v8 chevy? i am probably making that WITHOUT a supercharger on my fully build 400 SBC! getting power out of a v8.. big deal. seen it six ways to sunday. HONDA WAS MAKING 100 HP PER LITER BACK in 91! WITHOUT THE USE OF TURBO. and thats a FACTORY ENGINE WITHOUT MODS. thats the kind of power that is impressive. what if your LS1 was 100 hp per liter? 570 hp naturally aspirated? that would be impressive not that the LS1 ISNT impressive. it is in its own right, and is a great motor. im not bashing it. im just saying, woo hoo so your v8 makes more power. there is a RPR member with a CRX boosting his ew4 1.5L engine to 225 WHP 230 torque!! so when do you think you are gonna be driving these italian supercars, porsches and audis? anytime soon? no? well then when gas reaches 5 dollars a gallon i guess you will be stuck with your bicycle since you refuse to drive an "evil import". which raises the question, when you say that domestics are better than imports, and you say you would NEVER drive any of those imports, how exactly can you compare something you've admittedly NEVER DRIVEN??? look, i read your progression thread and saw your OT rant post. i realize you are only 19, so i have no problem excusing your ignorance. perhaps this is only your first or second car. im only 23 but have owned, worked on, or driven everything from a ford to a chevy to a dodge to isuzu, nissan, honda, toyota, bmw, audi, subaru and so on and so forth. admittedly i have never driven an italian supercar, or a newer porsche (im not gonna include my dad's 65 porsche, its a different league) but i do know that without truly knowing anything about owning, driving, maintaining, or repairing those cars, i cant really offer a VALID opinion on the subject other than to say "yah theyz supa hott yo~!" so, please go actually drive some imports (not your buddy/arch enemies riced out honda) and gather up a VALID opinion before you go offering it too much. btw did you ever figure out how to get those LED lights installed or did you take it somewhere? im sorry if i got personal there killiger, but you kinda spraypainted a target on yourself when you wrote this one. dont take any of my jabs too personally, i'm just a sarcastic asshole with a dry sense of humor. RINGO64- you are very correct, and i submit to all of those points, except one: "I have to say 10 years is long but how long has Honda, Toyota and all the specialized economy cars been around? decades and they're still having issues with things" what "issues with things" do you speak of with honda? and other than the recent possessed gas pedal debacle, what issues with toyota? i am in no way excusing toyota's recent downfall, but other than this one i cant really recall any major issues with toyota, and i DEFINATELY cant recall any problems Hondas have had.... can you elaborate? :nom_noms:

thanks for cleaning up my thread jedi! im a lazy shit... i completely agree about the cavi front end. it seems more aerodynamic and less sedan-ish without the vertically flat headlights and nose panel. and id love to shave that emblem but im too lazy. if i remove it i will have two holes. then i have to plastic weld and paint it. i got the panel because it already matched. maybe ill paint the bowtie red to hide it a tad.... plus it IS still chevy, and i do still love this brand. CHEVY 4 LYFE FOO!

thanks jedi i was too lazy to start another one. just to add a side note, i do believe chevy is catching up in (or regaining) quality and technology, definately moreso than ford and dodge. my comparison was more about 80's and 90's domestic vs 80's and 90's hondas... which were honda's golden years IMHO. chevy will ALWAYS my first car love... but alas i can afford to fuel up a chevy most of the time

sorry guys let me clarify some things, i AM a chevy guy. i was a chevy guy BEFORE i was a honda guy. i have a 53 bel air, 66 impala, 95 bellsouth van. i have owned a 77 suburban 454, 92 pickup v6, and now own this 94 pontiac sunbird i have loved every chevy i have driven. i even love this sunbird. but its not without its faults. my honda spanks it in every catergory. but a 94 sunbird is a HORRIBLE year and model to use as an example of chevy's finest. i would hope yall would agree that these years of J body were... sad. my 454 suburban? way cool truck. towing package, big engine all that. but it got 12 mpg on a good day, and sometimes had trouble getting out of its own way. and its 10 bolt rear end was pretty weak. oh and the quadraflop is a pain in the butt. 95 bellsouth van i LOVED it was a SWB so it handled great and would spin around on a dime. the 4.3 v6 was a powerhouse and its trans (which was a reman as it was stickered as such) always shifted smooth and strong. but alas, it had a burnt valve, missed on one cyl, and ate gas like it was going out of style. still was fast tho! and again, its 10 bolt rear end HOWLED like a bitch my grandmas 92 chevy pickup 4.3 v6 was great. worked great and i loved it. left me stranded once with a bad fuel pump but with a couple ratchet straps i was able to raise and lower the tank without incident. other than that it was a GREAT truck right up until some Ahole in a suburban left 74ft of rubber before knocking me 15 feet sideways and totalling the truck. please dont take what i said as me domestic bashing. i have owned and driven and worked on many imports AND domestics. i have good and bad things to say about BOTH. but to lay a blanket statement of "dont try to think your honda is a race car or better than DOMESTIC" is foolish. my honda IS a race car and IS better than ANY comparable domestic. i dare you to find a comparable car in 87 that can touch it. now the imports. nissan makes things impossible to work on, so you must remove half the components in the engine bay to get to something stupid. also their electrics are SHIT. toyota's newer cars are soul-less plastic boxes of sadness, but usually they march on to 300k even with severe abuse. older toyotas are great and their trucks are some of the toughest in the world. dont believe me go watch top gear. suzuki i dont really consider a car company at all. im sure there is an import i missed, but as far as honda goes, they make awesome motorcycles and great cars. yes there are too many people that slap a rice cannon and lime green paint on their 95 DX and think they have a race car. dont worry, i am not one of those. i shun those people believe me! i also believe that the newer you get, the crappier you get. i would take a 91 accord over a 99 accord ANY DAY OF THE WEEK because the (body) build quality went down around 2000. (engine quality excluded, honda engines are of the highest quality) today they look like any other import OR domestic. their leaps and bounds in technology they used to make seems to have slowed to a crawl which has been disappointing to say the least. i like old chevys and i like NEW chevys, but the 90's were a bad time for american cars. they became disposable. they wanted them to break so you would buy a new one. its not opinion its fact. why else would they make you disassemble half the engine to replace the starter. i can change the starter in my honda without removing anything! and its never gone bad, not even in my 253k mile honda! you're right this discussion probably doesnt belong in my thread, but i got called out so im gonna have to reply to it. im not saying import>domestic or honda>chevy because its APPLES TO ORANGES almost 90% the time, but, when comparing THIS 94 pontiac sunbird to lets say, my 89 Honda civic which was also a four door four cyl automatic with 200k miles on it vs sunbird's 170k, the honda STILL mopped up in every category. it was faster, handled 100x better, better gas mileage, easier to work on, more interior room (you can not believe me if you want, the sunbird is more cramped, ive had sex in both) the only thing the sunbird takes it on is TRUNK SPACE but since it sags at the slightest bit of weight, and the honda would only bottom out with the trunk full and a couple fat people riding along.... it still wins in carry capacity (in stock form) so guys, dont hate because i love hondas. dont hate because honda beats many things in certain categories. hondas have their place, and are FUN to SPANK when they think they have something!!! but never underestimate them. ive ridden in a twincharged LS-Vtec 92 hatchback that put down 450 hp out of a 2L engine. nothing to scoff at. thank god most of those ricer assholes ARENT running around with that much power. oh and the built by cavemen comment was mainly for dodge, specificly their neon. (shudder) and ill go ahead and include the ford Taurus as well... im sure you guys can agree THOSE are pieces of shit

i agree the cavi front end is better looking. i like the slant nose, looks more aerodynamic and less "sedanish" without the (vertically) flat headlights killiger- uhm yeah... we're gonna have to have a talk arent we? haha yes, my CRX is an ex race car. its been retired from autoX racing for a couple years. i put it in storage after i realized it was too fast and too loud for the street (104 mph ticket, and i was slowing down) i pulled it out of storage after my 1.3L crx daily blew @ 253K. i think the bottom end is fine, the cam siezed in the head. i will rebuild that one after the SI gets rebuilt. i plan on trying to get its original fuel economy (51 city 67 hwy) and thats with a 3 barrel carburetor in 1984! as long as i dont think its better than a domestic? yeah you're gonna have to convince me different on this one, because i know better. my SI might not be the fastest car in a straight line, but its quicker than almost everything around the corners. if you dont believe me, then you should talk to some guys who actually race them. a first gen CRX SI will even take a new lotus elise in a corner. thats track proven. sorry bud with stock motor, intake manifold and exhaust manifold, big autozone air filter and 2 inch side exit exhaust, factory torsion bars and springs, factory ride height, tokico blues, and race slicks, this little import spanked every EVO and STI at autoX. they kept playing with their boost controllers asking us what motor we had swapped. we even took the 2nd gen CRX SI that had full suspension slammed to the ground WITH slicks as well. now i know that isnt the import VS domestic comparison im sure you would be looking for, but to put it frankly, there were no domestics that were anywhere close to either CRX, or any of the EVOs or STIs that attended. im not a drag racer. if i cared about beating you in a straight line i would go borrow something american. dont worry tho, a turbo kit is in the works for the original 1.5 engine that should allow it to keep up with most v8 cars. its all about power to weight guys, and my rex weighs only 1650 lbs. to put it simply, honda IS better than domestic. better fuel economy, better design, and easier to work on. cheaper to own. have you even ever driven a honda? all the hondas i have EVER driven, even the POOR condition ones, make newer domestics seem like they were build by cavemen. tighter steering, better handling, better power (4cyl vs 4cyl) AND fuel economy. so dont go comparing apples to oranges. you cant say your v6 blah blah is faster than my 4cyl honda. but since my 4cyl honda HAS beaten v6 domestics.... well you get the point

hahahaha simple my dear watson twas free! removed it from the dumpster behind the JDM shop i used to work at. dont remember what it came off of, but was prolly a nissan or something. yes i realize its a rice cannon, yes its held on with coat hanger. i havent even bothered to weld the pipe yet. its been hanging on my wall in my shop for a few years now and i finally found the perfect place for it. it actually sounds pretty good... for a sunchicken and to Jedi3 thanks for moving my thread im a bit lazy. it says in the very beginning of the thread but i know most of you didnt read all of it. a pontiac sunbird could not be located at my local (stone's throw away) junkyard, but he gave me a great deal (80 bucks) on the entire conversion (headlights, bracket, turn signals, and nose) it came off a white cavi, so i had a white nose panel for a while but then i found a red cavi piece so it looks all factoryish now. you can see the clear coat is shit. ive considered getting it down to the color and having it recleared, but this thing is a cheap beater so im not worried about it. perhaps if i resell it looking to make some money, but then i would have to find someone that actually wanted it. i used to work at a body shop so i could do much of the work myself but id much rather spend that time on my OTHER whip, my 87 CRX SI. yeah thats right im a HONDA guy start the flaming now

UPDATE pics added, plus here is a finished front pic: installed a 12v accessory plug where the trunk release would be if i didnt have the lowest trim level available runs off radio 12v constant because i am running a separate 12v constant for my head unit. also started cutting up the dash to get rid of square radio. relocating the heater controls up and cd player in heater controls.

Hi yall People call me Kaymo, among things i am a mechanic, customizer and fabricator. i picked up this 94 pontiac sunbird from the ex gf after she abandoned it and i had already done some work to it. it had rear ended someone by the previous owner, and the two headlights were flopping in their buckets. while somehow the glass survived, the buckets were broken out and the hood latch + headlight support was mangled. the bumper was twisted and the cover was sagging. since i couldnt locate a sunbird, i picked up the headlights, turn signals, hoodlatch support, and nose panel for a cool 80 bucks from my local junkyard off a CAVALIER. i actually like the slanted look a bit better, looks more aerodynamic and makes the bumper stick out like a fat lip much less. i removed the bumper beam and plastic energy aborbing bullshit from the bumper cover, and simply bolted the cover back on. it worked quite well like that but i added a bungee cord and some zip ties to pull the center tight and keep less tension on the bolt holes as some of them are starting to slightly rip. it looks perfectly straight now and doesnt flap around in the wind even. ive pushed on it to pick myself up from stooping next to it and it hardly deflects. very happy with it. im not planning on using this car as "car ram-rod", but i am thinking about bolting in some sort of metal beam. if nothing else to make sure the flimsy unibody car stays together! the reason the car was abandoned was the starter on this 2.0l car decided it just didnt want to work anymore. sometimes it would if you beat on it, but alas one day it stopped for good. at the time i didnt think the starter was bad because i replaced the solenoid and it APPEARED to fix it. only lasted a short time before it resumed its NO START condition. i could not for the life of me figure out how to get the starter OUT of the car without tearing down half the motor. i ordered a J-CARLINE 94 service manual from ebay for 3 dollars less than the WORTHLESS haynes manual. of course what did it say? i had to tear down half the motor.... so once i removed the alternator, alternator bracket, power steering pump, accessory bracket, coil, fuel rail, throttle body, and intake manifold, i could EASILY remove and replace the F#*&%!G starter! luckly i convinced advance to take back the solenoid that did me no good, as well as the second one i got from oreilly's, and took my old unit down to my LOCAL starter shop. they had mine apart and showing me where it had failed in under 3 minutes. with my core i picked up a reman unit they had done WITH new solenoid for a COOL 50 bucks! the oreilly solenoid was 30 bucks!!! while i was back there i made sure to replace the 4 or so hoses that are otherwise INACCESSIBLE without removing the same list of things i had already taken off. one hose was NOT EVEN LISTED at ANY of the auto parts stores i tried (advance, vatozone, oreilly, napa) and if they were looking at the right one, dealer price was 30 dollars! the hose was only a few inches long! i couldnt use just anything since it actually stepped down in size. i ended up spending a few hours with the napa boys who eventually found me a VW hose that happened to be the correct step down in size, with a slight S bend. mine had a more severe bend, but i stuck a spring inside the hose to keep it from collapsing. worked out quite well. while tearing down any engine, i always find things i dont like that i wont feel better about until i fix. this car was no exception!! the intake manifold ports looked simply unfinished. they were rough and looked like they had been chiseled out by cavemen. the hump for the fuel injector was there on the intake manifold, but not on the head! the fuel injectors had almost half its spray pointing at the flat machined surface of the intake side of the head!! if you dont know what happens when you spray a mist of liquid at a super smooth surface, go get a bottle of windex and spray it at glass from 12 inches away. you should get a nice mist and good coverage. then spray it again 3 inches from the glass. instead of a nice fine mist, you get the liquid forming back into big drops that collect with each other into a liquid stream that runs down the glass. this means reliquefying the air fuel mixture which means unburnt fuel out the tailpipe. http://s293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/ka...take%20porting/ the intake didnt match the gasket, there was a 1/4 inch difference in some places. the head matched the gasket a bit better. but had the completely round (with no fuel injector hump) ports. i port matched the intake manifold to the gasket, and the head to the gasket as well. i had to grind out about 3/8ths of metal to match the fuel injectors hump. once i bolted the intake back on, i could look directly down the injector hole at the intake valve itself. my cutting had cleared a perfect path for the spray pattern to shoot right around the intake valve. i also did some smoothing of the TB on either side of the butterfly. not sure if that part did any good, but i know the intake did some good! 0-50 is a little better, while 50-80 mph is MUCH quicker. it runs smoother and revs faster. first thing i did when i got her running was to cut the factory exhaust can off and slap a rice cannon i had on there. sounds great LOL and is held on with coat hanger! i will weld it on later. i also relocated the coil from the engine where it could soak up heat to the other side of the master cyl where it is 1,000,000,000 times easier to access the spark plug wires, as well as keeps them further from hot engine where they could be melted. i added an engine and coil ground, as well as an extra alternator charge wire. i didnt check before, but i have a solid 14.66 volts at idle. i read where someone else with the same alternator went from 13.7 to 14.5 by upgrading this wire so im happy with that. i installed some 6x9s in the back and have been trying to hog out enough of the 4 inch holes in the front to fit my 4x6 speakers in the front. at the moment they are just chillin in the holes... now i just need to install a CD player (walmart mp3 FTW) and figure out how to power a couple mismatched 10's i have lying about. this car is just a beater, my real car is a 1st gen CRX. i am very cautious of taking her out since half the car is 20 year old plastic, and im currently restoring her poor busted panels to perfection. i do not plan on doing much more to this car that cost any real money, or anything that i cant take off and use on another car. i even have plans for the factory parts that survives after the motor goes. (rat parts!!!) while i have thought about trying to fix the clear coat, or making it look better in some way, i dont want to spend anything on it... so its staying with its crappy factory finish. it also is rather non-discript in its stock looking form, so im not gonna mess with it. i did consider hanging the rice cannon further off the back, putting a giant 2 tier aluminum wing on it and making a front air damn out of a random bumper, but cops are quick to look at modified cars first these days so its sleeper mode for me. i have lots of pics of the car and the work i have discribed here, but im too lazy to post it now. i will add those to this thread later i guess. comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome. one more mod i want to do is figure out some sort of rear spring swap, or helper spring in the rear. this car has a huge trunk, but if you add the slightest bit of weight she sags like hell. the front also sits a tad higher since i removed the 100 lb bumper beam...