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My sunfire's performance overview.

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Current mods:

Aluminum SRI, painted black with a K&N (pic not current)

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B&M short throw, APC carbonFAKER shift knob, cleaned all the CF paint off with a wire wheel (pic not current)

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Soon to come:

MIMO adjustable springs, sitting in my closet right now

Custom made front and rear strut bars, sitting in my dorm just need to finish cutting and welding

Custom rear tie bar, finished designing it, have to find time to make it.

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That intake looks so random in there! lol

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That intake looks so random in there! lol

Thats why its now painted black, fits in better. Plus that was the day i put it in, everything's basically the same color now, dirty :lol2:.

Thats why its now painted black, fits in better. Plus that was the day i put it in, everything's basically the same color now, dirty :D.

:huh:

Dirty, the most common color on a car :huh:

Damn bro. Time for a 3400 swap. And you can keep your transmission. Then you will hear the intake actually do something lol.

I remember someone built their 2200. Pretty impressive on paper. Forged pistons, cam, LSX drivetrain, tune, blah blah. Dyno numbers were not even at 200hp. Its a bummer. Although I like how the 2200 sounds more than the LD9 or Ecotec.

You need to get rid of that 2200sfi box and get a 90degree bend pipe too.

Interesting little Sunfire. I'd do an L61 swap (2.2L Ecotec) much broader aftermarket, and more potential. Build the internals, and they love boost!

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Interesting little Sunfire. I'd do an L61 swap (2.2L Ecotec) much broader aftermarket, and more potential. Build the internals, and they love boost!

Meh, he would have to get the transmission as well. 3400 you dont. :lol2:

What trans is mated to the 2200 then?

What trans is mated to the 2200 then?

To his, its the getrag. But there are 3 different getrags when it comes to the bellhousing. The LN2, LD9, and Ecotec. The LN2 is the only one that will bolt up to the 3400.

Ah, LN2, that's the 2200's code. Cool.

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Most j guys refer to the old 2.2 as the LN2 and the 2200 as just that, because they have different intake manifolds.

But yeah the only other serious mods i have planned are some exhaust work, slightly larger plenium, and a shaved/polished head, and a 50 shot for when i wanna play on the strip. I'm building this car mainly for autoX so i wanna keep the 2200 in there its wicked light. Makes getting close to a 50/50 weight distribution easier to achieve. Thanks though guys.

Most j guys refer to the old 2.2 as the LN2 and the 2200 as just that, because they have different intake manifolds.

But yeah the only other serious mods i have planned are some exhaust work, slightly larger plenium, and a shaved/polished head, and a 50 shot for when i wanna play on the strip. I'm building this car mainly for autoX so i wanna keep the 2200 in there its wicked light. Makes getting close to a 50/50 weight distribution easier to achieve. Thanks though guys.

Yeah........ its wicked light. Although its a cast iron block and the Ecotec is all aluminum lol.

Just make sure you keep that cooling system in super shape. Thats the first to take a dump and cause blown heads.

Yeah........ its wicked light. Although its a cast iron block and the Ecotec is all aluminum lol.

Just make sure you keep that cooling system in super shape. Thats the first to take a dump and cause blown heads.

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there's nothing wrong with the 2200 except it's underpowered. the older LN2 had better power :S

port and polish, up compression a bit, +1 valves, and a cam = win

ecotec swap isn't worth the work IMO. i guess it's not as bad in a 98+ but in anythign older(i.e. no BCM), unless you wanna use something like a megasquirt to control the engine, it's WAY too much work

ecotec swap isn't worth the work IMO. i guess it's not as bad in a 98+ but in anythign older(i.e. no BCM), unless you wanna use something like a megasquirt to control the engine, it's WAY too much work

I agree. Its anything 99 and older where it becomes a pain. He has a 2000+ so the swap would actually be quite easy.

There is nothing wrong with building the LN2 or 2200. But when you look at the money you would be putting into those motors, compared to what you could easily swap in there, its not even a comparison. To me at least.

That intake looks almost as big as that engine too :agreed:

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Yeah........ its wicked light. Although its a cast iron block and the Ecotec is all aluminum lol.

Well it must be the tranny thats heavier then, because springs for the eco's are longer in the front than the ones for the 2200

there's nothing wrong with the 2200 except it's underpowered. the older LN2 had better power :S

port and polish, up compression a bit, +1 valves, and a cam = win

ecotec swap isn't worth the work IMO. i guess it's not as bad in a 98+ but in anythign older(i.e. no BCM), unless you wanna use something like a megasquirt to control the engine, it's WAY too much work

Definitely not gonna do a swap, if i was planning on building a 250+hp monster then maybe, but my thing is autoX i think Drag racing is boring. With a shaved head, more aggressive cam, bigger tb. This engine can put out like 150 hp which is plenty for class2, with the suspension i'm workin on for it.

That intake looks almost as big as that engine too :lol2:

How much HP does that wing add on your FWD car? :P

It actually adds.... NONE!!! :lol2: Nope, it does rob my performance, but adds to my handling, as where I'm stationed at, the winds are extremely horrible and dangerous, so the added downforce on my car allows the car to handle better in windy conditions :woot:

if you wanted to boost and stay in the autox area, go with a t25 turbo or a tdo5h turbo. those spool up quick but only allow about 15psi max and are perfect for helping you get out of the turns. unless you wanted to go with a 16g tdo5h but that would be your preference.

Well it must be the tranny thats heavier then, because springs for the eco's are longer in the front than the ones for the 2200

Where did you get that information? It cant be the trans. Its the same trans on the 00-02 models as it is for the ecotec models.

From what I remember its not that the front springs are longer, its that the ecotec front ends sit higher since there is less weight/load due to the ecotecs all aluminum motor.

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Regardless, i'm not ripping out my engine just because you dont like the 2200.

Regardless, i'm not ripping out my engine just because you dont like the 2200.

I dont know who your talking to, but if its me, again with some wrong information. I never said once in this thread that I dont like the 2200.

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Forget it

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