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On 8/4/2023 at 3:57 PM, Last Indian said:Ok, one step at a time. First change the pulley to the 6” & see what change that makes. If it is enough you could stop there, although if it were mine I would put the GM 18” fan blade with the clutch in as that type design does a better job of pulling air when needed, but decouples when not needed.
If that change doesn’t prove to be enough than we can talk about what you might do next.Hello guys. Good news. I Changed the water pump pulley from 8" to 6" like you suggested and turn on the car. The car temperature now, stopped, it´s about 88 celsius 190 F. Ouside temperaure about 86 F. Temperature almost dont changed for about 15 min with the car parked. I think the problem were solved.
Now I´ll change the blade for a GM 18" with clutch to improve more.
I DON´T HAVE WORDS TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE HELP, INFORMATIONS AND PACIENCE.
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22 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
is it justA me , or does that fan look little in that shroud ?
Fabio, how much room is there from the end of the blades to the shroud ? that will cvertainly be loosing flow through the radiator at low speed.
Almost 2". Actually I use a 18" blade and I think 20" will not fit.
1 minute ago, Last Indian said:Fabio, what is the diameter of the shroud hole where the fan sits.
Almost 20. But I think a 20" blade will not fit. A put a kind of paper At mine blade increasing 1" and 2". For more 1 (19" total) is ok. For 2" no.
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4 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:and that was the clue!! fabio.... you said the engine temp runs good at highway speeds... sooo.
its air flow. not anything else .
last indian is thinking like i am, mechanical air flow through a radiator with a fan needs a shroud that is as close as you can get, blade to the tunnel relationship so to speak , not only to the radiator but the the shroud ... air will be flying off the ends of each of those blades and loose effective flow big time !.. this is for slow speed running ,,, and if its not flowing .... the temp goes up ! super easy if you thing about air flow ...
Thank you man. I will start changing the fan blade for one bigger and with flta blades like last indian said, and change the water pump pulley.
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12 hours ago, Last Indian said:
Fabio, the pulley should be the stock 6” not 8” that slower speed could easily cause a lack of cooling at lower speeds. The shroud & fan blades are wrong, as Kiwi indicated. There needs to be only about a 1/4 “ to 1/2 “ gap between the blade tips & the shroud edge. Also, the Mopar fan might work in Dodges setup, but it’s no good for yours. You need a straight blade fan to one with bent tips. See attached photo.
I don’t think you have blockage because it cools at higher speeds when you are move air through the radiator. I think, the fan issue, the shroud to fan issue & the pulley size, are all combining to cause the problem.No it’s not you!
Hey Man, thanks again. For now, I will change the Fan and the water pump pulley.
Is my Shroud the correct one?
One again, thank you so much
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9 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
Fabio
show us some pictures of your fan to shroud set up .
And have you had the thermostat out and tested it ?I have anothers doubts:
My Shroud appears to be original. My fan appears to be from Mopar (Dodge Dart) 7 blades and 18 inches.
My water pump pulley has 8" and the main pulley (from crankshaft) is about 6 1/2". Is That correct? Because with this configuration the water pump will rotate less than the motor. I´m correct?
I have a A/C Non Original installed but not working. Only the hoses conected, no gas, no compressor belt, no electrical power to the vent inside the car. Those hoses get very hot when the engine works. Can I eliminate that hoses? I have no intention to put A/C to work (I think I will increase even more temperature)
I did not tested the Thermostat, its a "normal" 180 F (not high flow)
Any suggestions?
Thank you guys
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9 hours ago, Last Indian said:
A couple thoughts. First it may be the fan. You should run a 7 blade fan on a clutch thermostat housing that mounts to the water pump hub. By your description it sounds that the system cools properly when moving enough air through the radiator. The fan I described will make a huge improvement at low speeds & help to pull down temperature when temperatures rise above the set point of the thermostat clutch housing. Also how many rows is the radiator? A larger radiator, like a 4 row may help as well, but I would start with the fan & clutch housing.
Thanks Man. My Fan is a 7 blade, 18 inch total size.
Yes, shroud in place. Radiador original rebuild.
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My car is runnig up to 210 F when in trasit. Sometimes increases. On the road, up to 60 mph about 170-180 F. I have a brand new radiator, a new water pump (Like original 11 bolts and cast impeler), a thermostat for 180 F (but not for high volume), original pulley, shroud in place, fresh new coolant, 16 lbs radiator cap. I tested the temperature indicator and its ok.
I have a Holley 0-80555C 650CFM Spread Bore Electric Choke Vacuum Secondaries
I don´t know where to look first. I´ll appreciate any help
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What is the correct range of temperature for a Catalina with 428 engine? I´m a little bit concearned about it and I didnt find this information. Thanks in advance
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1 hour ago, Ringo64 said:
Thank you to everyone who entered to be a part of our 2024 Forever Pontiac Calendar! It's great to see this competition going strong year after year with a great collection of Pontiacs, we have formed several groupings. During round 1, the top 2 individuals will be taken from each grouping and move on to the next round.
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Voting will run till August 22, 2022 11:59 PM ET
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1999 Trans Am WS6 convertible, 6-speed, 7,900 miles, 2nd owner, Color: Pewter
lester's 1977 Trans Am
Gerrit's Firebird
Poncho15's Firebird
In memory of my little girl..
Jazmine 12.15.02-10.24.16
daddy will always love you.
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wcskinner's 1967 GTO
Big Red's GTO
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1966 389 tripower 4 speed
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Great Pontiacs! Very difficult to choose only one per group!
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On 7/1/2023 at 12:11 PM, Ringo64 said:2024 Forever Pontiac Calendar - Entries
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On 7/4/2023 at 10:15 AM, Frosty said:Welcome to FP.
You have a very beautiful car. Has anything been done to modify it?
No. Its very original
15 hours ago, Wrongway said:Welcome! Has anything been done or is she stock? Any other pictures?
No. Its very original. I shared a video about it. Appears My 68 Caprice ND 69 Catalina
10 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:Wrongway ! Where have you been fabio won potm last month … he has a cool thread with video all about his
Follow the video
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Amazing!
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On 5/28/2023 at 7:25 PM, Bonne61 said:Since I'm sooo happy to finally have our Bonneville back on the road, here are some more blatant self-promotional photos & videos from our recent adventures 😆
My wife and daughter also included, to provide some balance 😁
Enjoy 🤙
Awesome!
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11 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
cool video Fabio, i couldnt understand a word, but i am guessing this is the importer guy and you are checking out the cars he has imported
No man! This is a Youtuber guy that make some videos about the vintage/muscle cars and its history. The 3 cars are mine and they filmed at my home.
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28 minutes ago, Frosty said:
This is the Pontiac engine color reference guide.
http://www.pontiacpower.org/enginecolor.htm
I think that should answer all your questions.
Thanks man!
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13 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:
Fabio, that is so cool that you have the information that you already have,, can you get the import information from the prevous owner, that will have the bill of sale info from state side with the owners details.
then you have a path to track where your gem came from...
i think its so important to not only own a classic, but to try and document its history if you can !... sounds really dumb, but then you get to inform people who ask you about your car, what and where it came from.
Clearly you have a passion for Pontiacs, and its justA fun to have that in its self !!...
( note to Fabio)... you will note that everywhere you go within fp, this odd word pops up..."justA"...
for the untrained, its a salute to Steve. one of our every long standing forum members who i have so much respect for! and his tag is justA6.. we have JustA made it a online habbit ... why you ask ??? because we can !
I tryed contact with the guy that imported the car, but no success. I like to have all the informations I could to maintain with the car. Please, take a look with this video, where appears my cars and of course, the Catalina. It will be a honnor for me.
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Hello 64 kiwi boni. I bought the car here in Brazil. It was imported for another person around 2010 but I don´t have information´s about that. The car have a sticker from Automobile Club Of Oregon. I tryed some contact, but with no response. I would like to have the car history during the time that it was in USA. If anyone could help.
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Someone knows the color code or name to use in the 428 engine for a Catalina 1968? Thanks!
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About 2 years. Its an amazing American car
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9 hours ago, Frosty said:
Beautiful car. Has anYthing been done to modify it? Or is it completely stock?
Its without modifications. The rally II wheels and the cordova top are from factory. I have all PHS informations to confirm.
8 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:That is a perfect example of 69 Pontiac goodness. Thankz for sharing, great pic's!!!
Thanks man!
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POTM Vote, August 2023
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Amazing car