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Flbandit98

My Florida Title Nightmare

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I purchased my 1979 Pontiac Trans Am VIN 2W87K9N131799, on April 28th 2012, from Caviar Dreams LLC, a used car dealership located at 615 N Cocoa Blvd, Cocoa, FL 32922 phone (321) 501-2800, or (321) 208-6334.  About three months later I received a clear Florida title.

 

This dealership has now changed its name to Extreme Motorcars LLC, and from what I understand they lost their license to sell vehicles due to illegal business practices.  To regain their license they just changed names.  So I am faced with a dilemma in how to get my title fixed.

 

I just went to the DMV in Palm Bay Florida to have my wife’s name added to the title.  At this time we were told that my title is no longer valid and that the state of Maryland where my car was previously titled had re issued a “Salvage” title on my Trans Am two months after it was titled to me here in Florida?

 

They said I needed to go back to the dealership where I purchased it and somehow get them to apply for a “rebuildable” title of some sorts.

 

Needless to say this came as a complete shock to me, I have put over $10,000 into this car since I purchased it back in 2012 and that is after paying this dealer the $7,500.00 purchase price.  I actually traded my 2008 Yamaha R1 motorcycle for this vehicle plus around $3,000 in cash.  As it was it took this dealership almost 3 months to complete their paperwork through the DMV so I would receive the title.

 

If you look this dealer up on Google you can read the reviews.  They have the horrible reputation of screwing people over.  This is why I am fearful of going to the owner Jimmy Thistle and asking him to help fix this!  The lady at the Palm Bay DMV told me that you have some other remedies to help me.  Someone even created Facebook pages detailing the criminality of this dealership!

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Extreme+motorcars%2C+615+North+Cocoa+Blvd%2C+Cocoa+Florida&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Caviar-Dreams-LLC-Jimmy-Thistle-Unfair-Business-Practices/139224526173911

 

There is nothing physically wrong with this car. I have been over every inch of the vehicle and it has never even been in an accident.  I had the car completely repainted and all new interior since I purchased it.  If need be I can bring the vehicle into the DMV to have it inspected. I have even purchased all the historical information from the Pontiac Historical Society which authenticates this car matching the VIN to the exact color and vehicle accessories that it came with from the factory.  They sent me a reproduction of the original window sticker which I have attached to this email.  This serves to validate the VIN and vehicle as it is.  I have no clue why Maryland made this a salvage vehicle and why this dealership failed to correct this issue before they sold me the car?

 

Can you please investigate this problem and re-issue me a clear Florida title for this car?  I sure would appreciate it immensely!!! Also if you need any more information or paperwork from me please let me know.

This whole process cost me quite a bit of money and almost 3 months that I could not even drive my car!!

 

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I would suggest contacting a lawyer. Something seems extremely fishy if your title was placed as a salvage in another state that it hasn't been registered even in.

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That was the previous state the car was registered.  The issue was that the dealer I bought the car from sold it as a clear title car.  He bought it at auction as a salvage branded car.  From what I read that is a class 3 felony in Florida.  But the problem is I can't go after him now since he is officially out of business.  But he really is still in business under his sons name now.  This guy is the classic crooked used car salesman!  What I can't understand is how a perfectly good car ended up with a salvage title.  I have been over every inch of the car and it's all original sheet metal.  One of the straightest cars you could find and no damage anywhere.  Just normal wear and tear, faded paint and some surface rust on the hood and top of the front fenders.  All I can think of is that the car was impounded or left at a repair shop with an unpaid bill.  The owner never paid the bill so the car ended up being auctioned as salvage by the shop it was left at.  In some states they can legally do that if the car is never claimed by the owner.   It even came with the original keys with the key fob from the same dealer it was sold at in 1979 as shown on the reproduction window sticker I got from Pontiac Historical.

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So you haven't talked to this guy?  Or he won't talk to you about this problem?  No help from FLA DMV?   What does Maryland DMV saying about this?   File a report with the Police and see what they will do to help.  Lawyer will be expensive, but you have too much invested in this to begin with.  This really sucks.

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Maybe the car is rebadged,vin swap? I would get a lawyer..

 

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If all you need to do is get it inspected to put it on the road then do that.  Enjoy the car and then try and speak with the respective DMVs to try and get any history reports from the perspective government agencies to piece together the story.  Move forward from there.

 

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/vehicles/registration/buy-vehicle.htm

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