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at this time i was an executive for the new zealand hot rod association and would do all the nation wide events, judging etc and i met a guy who would become a life long mate.  he had a model A c

Since we are in lock down, i am working on what cars i can with what i have and this is the one car i have been avoiding for some time now. but what happened was the 64 Pontiac got offered to me

it is a 1972 Holden belmont with factory 173 cube inch straight 6, very simliar to the 60"s  chevy motor, but Holdens version, with a 3 on the tree box and bango ltd slif diff. Rust wise, it wasn

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Great progress! Interesting color of green, definitely suits it!

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Funny to hear you talkin about the ute.  Over here it's my street.....Ute Pointe.  LMAO  Also a native American tribe.   Yes another Indian connection.   Your garage is freakin amazing, and filled with even better toys!

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6 hours ago, JUSTA6 said:

Funny to hear you talkin about the ute.  Over here it's my street.....Ute Pointe.  LMAO  Also a native American tribe.   Yes another Indian connection.   Your garage is freakin amazing, and filled with even better toys!

Yeah justa6 i am a devoted petrolhead and have been since i was a kid, early days it was all 56 chevs and dirt track racing old cars ( mostly old holdens) and then i just sort of started to stop selling and just buying and keeping them.

I have one more that i will post, and it is my favorite baby.. i went to New York too a car show especially to see it released and it took 2 years to get my hands on one, and i aint never selling it.:o:cheers:

The rest are not worthy of this web site ( no one wants to see a old dodge ram or escorts, cortinas minis and mazdas)

 got any pictures of your Ute ???

Holden just got canned by gm so its kind of like Pontiac now... collector items👍

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My Ute is my address,  it's the street I live on. :rofl:    The general public have no idea how to spell it.  Best example of what it is......a native American tribe.  My Ol Sunbird is my 1st NEW car.  Still only has 30,000 mi on it and will never leave here.  

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On 4/3/2020 at 11:37 PM, 64 kiwi boni said:

Yeah justa6 i am a devoted petrolhead and have been since i was a kid, early days it was all 56 chevs and dirt track racing old cars ( mostly old holdens) and then i just sort of started to stop selling and just buying and keeping them.

I have one more that i will post, and it is my favorite baby.. i went to New York too a car show especially to see it released and it took 2 years to get my hands on one, and i aint never selling it.:o:cheers:

The rest are not worthy of this web site ( no one wants to see a old dodge ram or escorts, cortinas minis and mazdas)

 got any pictures of your Ute ???

Holden just got canned by gm so its kind of like Pontiac now... collector items👍

 

18 minutes ago, JUSTA6 said:

My Ute is my address,  it's the street I live on. :rofl:    The general public have no idea how to spell it.  Best example of what it is......a native American tribe.  My Ol Sunbird is my 1st NEW car.  Still only has 30,000 mi on it and will never leave here.  

I couldn’t agree with my buddy JustA more! Great collection. Love the “70” Camaro! “69” Z was first love & my first new car! Broke my heart to sell it in 2004. I would love to see the Rams!

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I think this link will work? This was posted back in “17” I owned both a “69” & “74” Z both were massively modified as you will see, if the link works. The “74” was my wife’s the “69” was mine part, just part of the reason for the massive mods were to many winters in Northeast Ohio! Lots of hard winter lots of salt! And yes we drove them year around. Believe me when I say, winter, big horsepower, rear wheel drive, is nothing but shear fun! 

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1 hour ago, Last Indian said:

I think this link will work? This was posted back in “17” I owned both a “69” & “74” Z both were massively modified as you will see, if the link works. The “74” was my wife’s the “69” was mine part, just part of the reason for the massive mods were to many winters in Northeast Ohio! Lots of hard winter lots of salt! And yes we drove them year around. Believe me when I say, winter, big horsepower, rear wheel drive, is nothing but shear fun! 

wow!! you certainly had a major job with both camaros!!! i am impressed with your full Chassis on both cars, bet that made a difference to handling too !

i had a 75 lt and it had the same big bumpers as your wife 74, with that great big leaf spring behind the ally.

 i read some where how in 72 over 110k camaros where crushed after thay didnt meet the new frontal impact rules, guess that is why the big bumpers. not sure who true that was ...🙄

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21 hours ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

wow!! you certainly had a major job with both camaros!!! i am impressed with your full Chassis on both cars, bet that made a difference to handling too !

i had a 75 lt and it had the same big bumpers as your wife 74, with that great big leaf spring behind the ally.

 i read some where how in 72 over 110k camaros where crushed after thay didnt meet the new frontal impact rules, guess that is why the big bumpers. not sure who true that was ...🙄

The “69” was just incredible! I have raced quarter miles, saloon racing and road courses for many many years! I drove them, built them and designed suspension for them, but never did one handle like the “69” did after I finished the full frame & suspension mods. I had removed 300 pounds from the car by cutting out the entire floor from firewall back, all of it and all from above CG. That is a very heavy floor triple panel in some places because of the unibody. Long story short, I never got to drive behind the car, but many that did told me over and over that it changed lanes like a slot car. That kind of maneuverability & 600hp were a pretty fun combination.

The “74” handle really well too, but a little more docile, not quite as aggressive & only about 350hp. The bumpers you mentioned! Those were an abortion if I ever saw one! Aluminum and steel in the winter! Water, salt! Seriously they might as well have connected a battery to it and forget the alternator! So when I rebuilt it I gutted the bumpers! No steel leafs, got rid of them all. Just the aluminum bumper! Welded up some Stainless steel extension brackets that extended out from the frame and mounted the bumpers solid. In doing that I moved the bumpers in about 4” closer to the body and got rid of the flexible vinyl body color intermediate piece they used.

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So with the weather being sh-t i cant do much on the Bonneville, so i am on to my HQ Holden ute ( Justa6 street :dancingpontiac: )

i have a set of VF commodore/ R8 pontiac seats to fit and they look way better than the "race seats" 

have had to make mounts to comply with our new zealand LVVTA requirements so it will get through certification to get it back on the road .

 Basically here if we mod anything we have to get it certified to get legal for the street, way easier than Australia, they have it really hard.

so i made all my mount plates and plug welded then to the floor pan...as per Blah blah 🙄 

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As per my hobby car manual, i have made a double plate that fits under and above the floor, min area is 3 1/4 x 2" or 80mm x 50mm and 3mm thick

 each plate has to have a 5mm / 3/16 radius corners and all which contact with the structure of the floor pan must have a 0.1 mm or 1/24th radius.

 Pretty easy with a cut off saw to tickle up 😋

 then  you have a max of 5mm plug weld  hole to hold it in place or, you can use a money rivet x 2 max 1/8 time two too hold them in place.. nothing major but very explicit in what you can and cant do.🙄🙄 

 oh look at the time !!!! its .....

BEER -O - CLOCK  AGAIN

 Gees dont the days fly when we are working on our cars !:cheers:

 

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Beer! It's not just for breakfast anymore!

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Very cool kiwi. Nice matching green bowtie to go with it.

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What type of seats are those?

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Hay Ringo

they are out of a vf ss holden, think they are also in your r8 pontiacs too

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17 minutes ago, 64 kiwi boni said:

Hay Ringo

they are out of a vf ss holden, think they are also in your r8 pontiacs too

Ah, nice! 

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after working all saturday, i managed to get 2 hours on sunday to try a new set of shorty headers i bought, they are to suit a camaro and they are the closest i could find that will give me the ground clearance i need, all the full length headers i have tried ( 3 set) are all too low to the ground, as i am running super low springs and castlemaine 2 inch dropped spindles.

So shortys are the way to go... BUT 🙄

Right hand side was a perfect fit even with my right hand steering !👍😜 but the left side with all its room is hitting on the from suspension mount, i looked at it for about an hour and humed and herred , and i know from here the only way to fix this issue is to bite the bullet and chop it up and start from scratch :stars:

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