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CRUISIN the Hague in Norfolk. Since the top-end overhaul has been behaving I figured I would show her off ;)

Well, I know here I go again, but it seemed only fitting that a new arrowhead be created for the new front cover/splitter setup. Part of the reasoning is that this cover will have larger more aggressive NACA duct bezels, as I have increased their size over the stock configuration. I would then just leave the last arrowhead with the last cover. I will attempt to get a bit more bold, a bit more menacing, a bit more; well Indian, with this arrowhead! It may not appear that way in the pictures, but the larger inlay of copper, plus being inset as opposed to protruding and larger flutes, but less in number, makes the arrowhead appear larger. It should also look a bit larger once it is finished being polished. This was the first arrowhead for the original OEM front cover. This was the current arrowhead from the modified front cover/splitter. These two pictures are the new arrowhead (unpolished) on the new front cover.

1969 Firebird (real) Trans Am. Just out of paint, on the way home. Looking forward to getting her on the road.

My 2006 Mallet Solstice LS2 Six Speed Tremec, outside the soon to Open Pontiac Transportation Museum in Pontiac Michigan

Your all overthinkin this..... He HAS to sit in the back seat to stretch his legs. Really doesn't give a damn who's drivin. Also gets a boost from Nike if the shoes show in the windshield.

Hope those fuckers get fucked. No sympathy for people who loot in scenarios like this.

The Trophy 4 engine (sometimes called the Indy 4 engine) is probably the most unique engine Pontiac every developed. Things started back in 1958 when GM was reacting to the rising popularity of imports and it was feeling the effects of the ’58 recession, GM started to develop its own version of a compact cars, starting with the Chevrolet Corvair, with its rear-engine air-cooled flat six engine. Buick, Olds, and Pontiac could have replicated the Corvair but instead chose to go their own way. The ’61 Buick Special and Olds F-85 got a new V6 (which would eventually evolve in the 3800) and a small 215 cu in aluminum V8 – both engines came from Buick. John DeLorean chose to take Pontiac in a different direction and build its own economic engine. The result was a revolutionary approach: a transaxle--adapted from the Corvair--mounted at the rear for good weight distribution, connected to a four-cylinder engine through a flexible steel driveshaft (often called the “rope driveshaft”). DeLorean wanted an inline four for the ‘61 Tempest. The only problem was that Pontiac did not have a 4-cylinder engine in its inventory, and not enough money in the budget to develop a new one from scratch. But it did have its celebrated, 389-cu.in. V-8. Could it be split to make a workable four? In 1959, Pontiac had increased it’s V8’s stroke to 3.75 in, thus raising engine displacement to 388.9 cu in. This was the beginning of factory supplied performance items such as 4 bolt main bearings and windage trays to reduce friction from crankcase oil. The 389 would remain the standard Pontiac V8 engine through 1966. The 389 came in a wide variety of configurations that ranged from 215 to 368 horsepower. The 389 was the standard engine for the Pontiac GTO from 1964 to 1966. Beginning in 1961 the Pontiac V8 389 (and 421) was dubbed the Trophy V8, due to its many victories in racing after just two years. Since the 389 was called the Trophy V8, the new 4-cylinder engine was called the Trophy 4 by extension. In some racing corners, it was called the Indy 4. The Trophy 4 was a 45-degree inclined 194.4 cu inline 4-cylinder engine created from the right bank of the 389. With an identical bore and stroke of 4 1⁄16 in and 3 3⁄4 in, it was precisely half the displacement of the 389. Initial tests were encouraging. A Pontiac V8 with one bank of cylinders disabled was found to be capable of pushing a full-sized Pontiac over 90 miles per hour, with acceptable fuel economy for the day. By using the 389 as the basis for the 4-cylinder, the costs of preparing the four cylinder engine for production were significantly smaller--it shared its pistons, rings, connecting rods and more with the 389, and it even used the same tooling for its cast-iron block, thanks to shared dimensions. The crankshaft, camshaft, oil pan, intake, and other parts were unique to the four cylinder. The engine was offered in three horsepower ratings: 115hp, with 8.6:1 compression and a two-barrel carburetor 140hp, with 10.25:1 compression and a two-barrel 166hp, with 10.25:1 compression and a four-barrel The Trophy 4 was not an ideal compromise or design, by any stretch of the imagination. It retained about two-thirds of the mass of the 389, tipping the scales at a quoted 557 pounds, or 200 pounds more than the optional Buick 215-cu.in. aluminum V8. And its large displacement—194.4 cubic inches, made it prone to significant vibration. There was little the engineers could do about the weight and only so much they could do about the shaking. A downside of the engine’s design and configuration was engine vibration. An inline four-cylinder engine suffers from inherent secondary imbalance resulting from its 180-degree crankshaft. In its design, the two outside cylinders move together simultaneously, as do the two inside cylinders. Due to geometry and the ignition cycle, a piston descending from top dead center will always move quicker through the first 30 degrees of crankshaft travel than a piston moving upward from bottom dead center, meaning that more mass is moving downward than is moving upward, causing a shaking in the vertical plane. Today, engineers consider the installation of twin counter-rotating balance shafts a necessity for engines larger than 122 cu in (2.0 L). The V8-based design of the Trophy 4 lacked balance shafts due to cost (note - balance shafts didn't get popular at GM until the late 1980s/early 1990s). It was instead cushioned by a flexible rubber engine mounts designed to isolate the engine from the rest of the car, and its forces were further dampened by the Tempest's unusual drivetrain (which distributed forces by the engine being bolted directly to a rear-mounted transaxle via the solid outer tube of its driveshaft. The timing chain in the Trophy 4 was originally the same as the 389’s but was prone to stretching and breaking from the inherent engine vibration; therefore a special high-strength version was developed as a replacement. What killed the Trophy 4 was not its tendency to shake, or its habit of snapping timing chains, instead it was Pontiac's decision to move away from the transaxle design when the Tempest was re-designed from a compact to an intermediate for 1964. The slant-four was dropped as the base engine, replaced by the 215-cu.in. straight-six overhead valve engine from Chevrolet (this Chevy straight six lead directly to the development of Pontiac's OHC 6 engine in 1967). Today, the Trophy 4 can be made to produce 300hp in normally aspirated form, and more than 500hp with either a turbocharger or supercharger, if balanced and built with modern parts and techniques. These motors are much smoother than new too. They are very strong engines that weigh about the same as a small block Chevy",according to Ken Freeman, owner of East West Auto Parts in Tulsa, Oklahoma. https://books.google.com/books?id=0tsDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=pontiac+"trophy+4"&source=bl&ots=in8hgEZRl9&sig=Ya4PU_4exyy5QmhqctXM3-qnf4o&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC-aat95vZAhUJbK0KHXYzAHY4FBDoAQguMAI#v=onepage&q=pontiac "trophy 4"&f=false http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/cut-down-engine-week-pontiac-trophy-4 \ Cut Away of the 194 The 194 in a stock Tempest Blown Trophy 4 4-barrel intake manifold

My wife and I bought each other a very nice Christmas present this year. The goat's engine is getting rebuilt.

Ted, 100% gas is good stuff, but just remember in a pinch if you use Sta-bil 360 marine, it removes ethanol from gas and protects against the effects of water and alcohols mixed interactions on components. FYI.

Thank you all for this honor and thank you Ringo for this site we Pontiac true-believers get to hang out on.

Thought I would throw up these pics I took of the Pontiac club that meets by my place. Two of these are still with the first owner.

It was sunny and in the 50s today, so I unwrapped Raven and went for a drive after she sat in the barn for a month. In the video you will see I have lost a wing off the bird on the driver's side sail panel. Worst of all, you will see a bad scratch on the passenger's side door. I have only my idiot self to blame for that.

Hey I didn’t know Frosty stood for frosted flake !

Not the best pic's, but mine are chrome with plastic/rubber looms on the ends that hold the wires. Never had a prob.

Well, been going over the car and replacing sensors that were starting to go bad, bushings, installing those rear control arms, and getting ready to blow the car apart and hopefully get everything installed and painted. Yeah, the car is getting lighter and the body panels I made and modified along with the new nose I made. Should look killer and mean. But, still retain the Superbird looks. Oh, and it'll be sporting a killer pic on the wing of one of Acme Corporations own beta tester.

The greatest automotive car cruise week in Michigan has officially begun!

Here’s one

I've driven parts of Route 66. From Joliet IL to Springfield IL and from Williams AZ (just south of the Grand Canyon) to Needles CA. You will find interesting buildings along every part of Route 66 to stop at, so expect lots of stops everywhere you go. In Illinois: Odell IL - restored Standard Oil Gas Station from the 1930s. Pontiac IL - Pontiac-Oakland Museum, and Route 66 Shield Mural (take a picture of car in front of it) - in the alley behind Route 66 Association Hall of Fame Museum. Also check out the murals across the street / in the alley with the Route 66 Shield Mural. They're pretty cool too. You will also find small gas stations and restaurants, old buildings along the way. I recommend getting off I-55 and onto Historic Route 66 just south of Joilet and driving Historical Route 66 all the way to least Pontiac. In Arizona Seligman - Historic Route 66 General Store - basically a souvenir stand but its still cool. There are other gift shops in town worth checking out. Hackberry - Hackberry General Store. A red Corvette, old gas pumps, signs, etc. Lots of old cars to look at out back too. Nice souvenir shop. This is a must stop for any car guy. Kingman - mention in the song "Get Your Kicks on Route 66". - Locomotive Park - steam powered trains and train memorabilia - Route 66 Museum - across the street for Locomotive Park Cool Springs AZ - Cool Springs Station - looks like something out of the "Cars" movies Careful driving and some slow speeds from Cool Springs into Oatman - this is a mountain pass and the road is narrow in places. You might even see a wrecked and rotting car corpses in one of the ravines. Oatman AZ - Careful driving though Oatman - there are wild burros running around. These burros are descendants from the burros that gold miners set free after the mines closed. - Feed the burros - While the burros are wild, they have little fear of man since the townsfolk and tourists alike feed them. Several places sell burro feed and they should come up to you if they see you have it. - Check out the old western wear and memorabilia in the various tourist shops in town. Now I haven't been to Amarillo Texas yet but - Cadillac Ranch - Route 66-Sixth Street Historic District Oklahoma Route 66 - Lucille's Gas Station - Hydro, OK - POPS - Acadia, OK - Famous "Blue Whale" - Catoosa OK - Will Rogers Museum - Claremore OK - Optimus Prime (Transformers) statue - Stillwater OK - Oklahoma City - Check out the state capital complex - complete with working oil rigs on the property!

Here are some more cool cars..... 2018 Drag Week Winner - Tom Bailey's Camaro Looks like another company is now making the Challenger Daytona kits - GE are you listening????? Former Flint Michigan native and legendary car builder Carl Casper was suppose to be at the show - however he was taken to the hospital on Saturday. He was suffering from the flu. Sadly I didn't get to meet him but I remember building a lot of his models and going to his car shows back at the old Flint IMA Auditorium with my dad and brother. I ended up buying an autographed copy of his book. Old nostalgia race cars. A supercharged Ford SOHC engine! You don't see those everyday! She's real fine my 409. She a real fine 409! Way cool old-school style supercharged Olds Rocket V8 with side-draft carbs! Old dragster with a straight-six Blue Flame Six! I think this was the old car at the show - a 1919 Briggs & Stratton Horny Mike from Counting Cars was there.

Thanks so much; just wanted to say hello and introduce "Bonny." No, we didn't name her, she came to us that way. We will post mechanical details in the progression forum. Already a hit at the local cruise-ins and work. I took an entire day off to drive to work and give people rides for half the day. One co-worker even made a youtube vid: Disclaimer: Don't judge me for the music, he wanted 70's funk that was royalty free. I am neither a 70's cop action hero nor a porn star.

My '69 GTO, the 'look'.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/avro-arrow-recovered-lake-ontario-1.4793463

2006 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic 1 of 262

1) Smokey and the Bandit : very influential movie on me as a kid 2) Knight Rider : same My first car was a 1977 Vega wagon. After high school I bought my first Firebird, a 1977 Formula. I've own a Pontiac Firebird Formula every since. The one I have now is #7

Just uploaded some pic's of a Cruise-In I stumbled upon while visiting family in TC and thought I would share. The Firebird broke my heart when I came around to see the missing OHC 6 😥 https://flic.kr/s/aHskCbE7iD

http://www.musclecarszone.net/2018/04/23/trans-am-worldwide-takes-on-the-demon-with-a-1100-hp-firebird-drag-car/

A video I made on how to replace a Vacuum modulator on my th350 https://youtu.be/LV9ZJ6xzzAI

1-of-108 '69 Judge convertible

Two lane with Jezebel today...

A Riddler Great 8 finalist - '50 Chevy pickup called Heirloom A Pro street LS-powered '69 GTO Judge A cool old school altered dragster....looks like a model a might have built as a kid. An original old school gasser '54 Corvette - #636 built. A freshly restored '69 GTO Judge with a white top and interior

Here's my entry for the calendar.

1977 Firebird Formula in Nautilus Blue with a PONTIAC 400. Purchased new, never let go. New paint, refinished wheels, and such about 2 years ago.

Thought I'd share some pics of a few nice Pontiacs at this years show

Cleaned up, ready to cruise my 65 GTO.

edited another pic, also realised it was a 1300 mile weekend

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Smokey's Bandit? Hmmmm.....where's Frog? Jeff Denison's Warwick Blue '69 GTO Judge Love the Hurst wheels on this Tempest GMC Motorhome - YES! Ventura Sprint - with Chief Pontiac! A 1932 Pontiac from Ontario Canada. I thought this deserved Best in Show. I met the owner of this G8 a few years ago at the Widetracker's Dustoff. This car is a tribute to his grandfather, a Pearl Harbor survivor. He travels across the country with it giving tribute tours and lectures. This car has over 333k miles on it. 48-star flag - correct during WWII. Nice Stage I GS Buick convertible! Ever see a Firebird H.O. Royal Bobcat? Now you have! How often do you see a '67 Grand Prix convertible? How about 2 next to each other? Here's our group photo for the show. We sat on the slight hill over looking the show. JUSTA6 and JUSTAG6 got to the show first and snag this great spot. Heck Indyman Joe even cleaned two windows - so he claims anyway.

I think you can get trojans from the pharmacy counter.

Time to make the cardboard template into metal.

Ok, I don’t understand, what have you been doing all winter? It’s time to get ready to get the car out! The brakes should be done by now! You know if you spent less time working for money you could be done now! Somebody’s going to have fun this weekend!

Thanks, guys. I didn't have to do too much to get it running. The first thing I did was pull the plugs and squirt some Marvel Mystery Oil into the cylinders. I let it soak in for about 10 days. While that was happening, I flushed the radiator and changed the oil. I pulled the fuel tank, which was interesting b/c the car was in a space where I could not use a jack. So I spent alot of time crawling under the car. I got the tank dropped and emptied. It was rust free & intact, so I put a new sending unit in and put the tank back up. I changed the differential oil & gasket. I put a new battery in & cranked out that Mystery Oil. I put in new plugs, cranked it a bit & was happy when that oil light went out. It fired right up -- rough, but it was running. Amazingly, the brakes were working. A friend adjusted the timing. My father in law put a Holley 4 barrel in back in the '80s and it seems to stumble a bit when I put my foot into it. The car has dual glasspacks/cherry bombs on it now --- it's loud but sounds really cool. I'm not sure if I'll put mufflers on it or keep it as is. Here's the first start -- first time running since '89 or '90: I bought a disc conversion kit for the front brakes, and I'm upgrading to 15" wheels. I also need to put on tailpipes (the glasspacks are right under the car.). It has a few cosmetic issues but is very solid. I hope to have it on the road by Fall.

Either that or a race across the property between the toasted rodent against the wannabe Dukemobile. Besides the army vet has already broken once that we know of. I kinda doubt that GE would make that boyish mistake. Or if GE gets the Chevy hot rod back together - a little hot rod on hot rod action could be fun. Of course that all could end up like this too....

Joe, it looks like you've done a really great job on the Lemans! A little input about the traction/rear end issue that might help. The issue you’re seeing is somewhat common with racing/burnouts/very hard acceleration. I raced for years and I would see two problems with GM axles at the track. The first was the issue your speaking of, posi’s don't like burnouts! That’s not their purpose, If you keep doing burnouts you won’t have posi long and the rear end will just revert to an open rear end. A blue printered open rear end will out perform a posi under those conditions and if you setup the suspension right it will lay down two patches of rubber! Without going all technical on you or worse yet hearing the “you’re full of it” go do a little investigating and see what 700 hp NASCAR cars run or top dragsters run. If you like I can give you some ideas to improve the suspension to help, but as long as you run the posi it's going to torque steer till the posi breaks!

Found Frosty trying to get out of michigan!! Ringo - it's all good !! Frosty - good one !!